Posted by yxibow on May 3, 2006, at 23:34:29
In reply to MAOIs » yxibow, posted by ed_uk on May 3, 2006, at 10:33:59
> OK, but neither med is particularly useful. Pseudoephedrine is minimally effective as best. Other, more effective treatments are available for allergic rhinitis. If you have a cold, buy some tissues and drink some hot lemon :) The cold will go away on its own. Medication is not required!
Of course it will go away on its own, I'm talking about people with severe sinusits for which it helps and it is now making these people feel like criminals with restrictions in some states because of the meth lab idiots.
Blowing a tissue a hundred times is hard on the nose.
I agree there are other treatments that can work -- I find that preservative free saline (sometimes pressurized) is quite effective for sinus passage clearance without the jumpiness of pseudoephedrine. Doesn't mean that some people haven't been helped by it though.
> MAOIs should be tried before ECT in all severely depressed patients who are able to understand the restrictions, assuming that they have no contra-indications. Don't forgot Jay, that ECT involves the application of a large electric shock to the head.....repeatedly.Repeatedly, to whatever level necessary, this is true. ECT is a controlled seizure.
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> http://www.thymatron.com/main_home.aspActually the FAQ on the link with the ECT machine you showed points out the positive benefits that I aforementioned in the other reply and the rarity of severe complications.
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> >The thought of a medication in your body that could cause hypertensive crisis.....
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> Right, so don't take the meds which interact. Ensure that all care-providers understand that you are taking an MAOI and that drug interactions may occur.And suppose you've been hit by a car? I'd highly suggest a medical wristband that says MAOI.
> >we don't have the luxury any more unlike you in England of going into a pharmacy and getting codeine for a bad cough. The last time that was available was in the late 60s in some of the states here. So DXM is all there is, to be able to get into work and function at half capacity.
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> Dextromethorphan is minimally effective. In most people it is probably completely ineffective, it is highly unlikely to help you get to work. Dextromethorphan is not an especially valuable medication.For a mild cough I'll again say its all we have without having to go fill out forms and see doctors and waste time. It works, for a mild cough that would interfere with an average daily workday where you have to talk alot.
Severe coughs due to bacterial pneumonia require antibiotics. Cough suppressants like dextromethorphan should not be used in pneumonia. Mild coughs not associated with pnemonia do not benefit from antibiotics - medication is not required. The cough will go away on its own. Back to the hot lemon......
Where did I asy antibiotics or pneumonia? If you have strep, you have strep -- Augmentin, Penicillin V, etc.> OTC codeine is rarely used in the UK. Not a great loss. Low doses of codeine are relatively ineffective as a cough supressant.
Hmm... I seem to remember you using OTC codeine :)
Just my 2c from this side of the pond
-- Jay
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