Posted by ed_uk on February 18, 2006, at 13:53:17
In reply to Re: Secobarbitural Sodium! » ed_uk, posted by yxibow on February 18, 2006, at 1:56:03
Hi Yxi
>I dont know, because it just seemed that there was a sense of blase between barbiturates and benzodiazepines so I figured it was part and parcel of the NHS' arsenal. And I remember you mentioning now that the benzodiazepines are treated with disdain which is unfortunate because klonopin has allowed plenty a shutin to leave their house due to a variety of phobic and panic disorders.
Yes, benzos are treated with disdain here. Many (most?) pdocs believe that the long term use of benzos for anxiety is never justified. Barbs are treated with extreme disdain.
>Versed as a sleep aid ? I think it would be very very limited in the US.
There's nothing really special about midazolam except that it's particularly appropriate for use by injection (because it doesn't irritate the vein). Oral midazolam isn't any more sedating that any of the other short-acting high potency benzodiazepines.
Midazolam tablets aren't marketed in the UK, but they are available in some countries.
I doubt that a standard dose of midazolam would sedate you at all Yxi!
>Tolerance can and has developed to many barbiturates too, but I'm not arguing the unique use of it in this arena.
Definitely, tolerance to the sleep inducing effect of Seconal and Amytal often develops within 2 weeks (of nightly use).
Pheno is different to the other barbs. Tolerance to its anticonvulsant effect doesn't often develop......so it would seem.
>Well it was an assumption because you do seem rather relaxed about the use of Barbiturates
Rather relaxed?! Whatever gave you that impression? I advocated their judicious use only in a few specific situations.
>It would be horrifying if they managed to get barbiturates for sleep from some offshore pharmacy.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here Yxi!
>Actually there is a distant relation between Miltown, felbamate, and barbiturates if not in structure but in action.
That's true, meprobamate is structurally different from the barbiturates but may be similar in its mechanism of action.
>My conservative prescribing psychopharmacologist;-) Your pdoc is hardly conservative Yxi! Conservative pdocs do not prescribe high doses of diazepam!
Regards
Ed
PS. If you like carisoprodol Yxi, I imagine you would like Amytal! (Ironically)
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