Posted by paulbwell on February 9, 2006, at 3:26:51
In reply to Re: provigil vs ritalin vs desoxyn » paulbwell, posted by mike99 on February 8, 2006, at 6:44:58
> Primarily I'm looking for increased attention/alertness/motivation to follow through and not become distracted due to outside stimuli and loss of concentration.
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> I also desire the least peripheral effects. I cannot tolerate stimulants from this standpoint, my dr won't even consider it with an alpha/beta blocker.
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> I've used caffeine all my life which really doesn't do much except for very minimal increases in alertness. Sudafed (30 mg) is just slightly more effective than coffee- but gets the old heart going (but not nearly as much as traditional CNS stimulants).
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> Basically I'm trying to gauge how provigil might compare to caffeine or low-dose sudafed. I gather it'd be more effective, but there seems to be some debate as to whether it's more peripherally acting than coffee.
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> I thought for a minute about Desoxyn as it's touted as being so "clean" in terms of CNS activation. However, the same is often said of Ritalin and it nearly gives me a heart attack. Also, while meth has very minimal PNS actions (to my understanding), it is converted to regular D,L amphetamine in the body and so it seems that in reality it would have at least some of the side effects of regular AMP-- which sent me to the hospital twice (once as adderall and once as Dexedrine) :(
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> Basically, I just want to be able to focus and complete tasks, thoughts, conversations, movies, without losing total concentration and then motivation AND to do this without putting my heart into overdrive.
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> Sorry for the long response. I'd greatly appreciate any thoughts.
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> PS... I note your distinction between caffeine and coffee, but I used the terms interchangeably here because I get all my caffeine from coffee or soda.
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> > > Can anyone rank these in terms of peripheral stimulation?
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> > -Desoxyn has the greatest CNS to PNS effects of all.
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> > Caffeine increases blood presssure more than Coffee.
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> > Provigal makes many people tired, others it has an antidepressant effect and an awakening effect.
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> > What are you looking for?
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> > Cheers
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You seem to have tried all the CNS stims-cept Desoxyn?.Perhaps meditation may be helpfull?, as an aside to chemicals?
Cheers
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