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Re: Sleep troubles!-Barbiturates? Seconal Tuinal? » Paulbwell

Posted by yxibow on February 6, 2006, at 16:21:42

In reply to Re: Sleep troubles!-Barbiturates? Seconal Tuinal? » yxibow, posted by Paulbwell on February 6, 2006, at 4:03:14


> Thanks for your somewhat disagreeable post!

It wasn't meant to be personal or aggressive3, it was to look after your health.

>
> I wonder how much Valium you take, i was last week given double the PcDoc scripted dose by my friendly Pharmacist:)

What a friendly pharmacist :) Lets just say I take a high dose that I have to be careful while driving and operating power tools, for a very complex disorder that is potentiated partially by GABA.

>
> I have combined Alcohol with Diazepam, Clonazepam, Alprazolam, before, and had no probs, in fact it potentiates the Valium, allowing me to take a lower dose!

You're exactly right, it does potentiate the dose, because both drugs are CNS depressants. I'm not advocating being a teetotaler but I would strongly discourage using the alcohol as an adjunctive sleep agent. One, the alcohol gives a hangover and doesnt potentiate REM sleep. Two, the above phenomenon I mentioned -- the more the benzodiazepine you take, the greater the chance of respiratory depression. So the alcohol is like doubling this. The benzodiazepines relax smooth muscle tissue, and that includes your lung, which one assumes would want to continue operating.

I've also taken alcohol with benzodiazepines, but I dont take it right afterwards, because the benzodiazepine has peaked then. Everyone in (well, western society at least) who is of age (or not) consumes alcohol from time to time. I'm not saying you cant, I'm saying it would be best to be careful and don't use it as a sleep agent. It's poor as one. The fact that you "got away" with using it before doesnt mean again.

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> I have NEVER taken a Barbiturate, but from what i have read you have to take, like 30 Nembutals, 50 Seconals, 70+ Amytals to do you know what. This is of course without Ethanol.

Definately without. And of course you're taking multiple medications so thats multiple CNS depression.

Tidings... nothing personal, and I hope you get better sleep

-- J

 

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