Posted by Questionmark on January 3, 2006, at 7:37:38
In reply to Nardil review of 4 weeks trial bethanechol/cyproh., posted by sdb on January 2, 2006, at 14:34:57
> Hi
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> Is there somebody using bethanechol/cyproheptadine against ejac. delay? Does it work?- Or is there something else which does help?-I am not experienced in that matter. Unfortunately the delay is the worst sideeffect of Nardil. I was on 45-60mg. Does somebody have the lucky experience that this sideeffect is diminishing automatically by time?
Never tried bethanechol. Cyproheptadine did not help at all and side effects were awful (bad fatigue; depression). Cannabis helps a lot (although that has its own side effects). Other than that i haven't found anything very helpful. The "delay" for me did diminish a little over time (months), but nothing significance. Some say that it does diminish a great deal though, for them. Good luck.
> After day 8 of Nardil withdrawal I had some uncontrollable muscle twiches happened sometimes, especially fingers and foots. The night during sleep I had even big twiches, my body "twiched" and I woke up...but now all is ok again. Is there somebody have had this too?-It is not on the sideeffects of Nardil withdrawal according FDA documents. And this happend on day 8 after withdrawal, is it possible?
Yeah, often, whenever i haven't taken enough Nardil in the past day or so, i get some major twitches while i'm sleeping. Never got them while fully awake though. Not exactly sure why this happens. Maybe some kind of serotonergic effect.
> I personally think it is more likely the twiches came because of a huge vaccine I took and all was connected with fever and sometimes headache Or the twiches came maybe from vit. B deficiency (?). I took some Vit. B pills and since then it was better - but thats absolutely no prove that the Vit. B was the problem.
Hmm. Maybe it's related to B6 deficiency then??
> In the FDA doc. is written that you can go down just to 15mg/day after it began to work. I dont believe that. Perhaps this works only for older people.
Yeah i've never understood that.
> as I stated before
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> -nardil is a very effective drug for depression, anxiety...and such things.
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> -there are no bad reactions before it begins to work compared to ssris.
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> -nardils diet restrictions arent that severe. I stictly did not take the things on the severe list the other things I ate moderate or other things in the less likely categorie I ate in normal amounts. If you eat more fruits you will even profite by your diet.
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> -blood pressure is falling (i suppose vasodilation) actually a good sideeffect but causing swelling (according the sideeff. list) at the ankles, but not for me.
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> -no weight gain but it like the sweet things more. But comparism betweend mirtazapine, which does you make to a hungry pig.
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> -most prominent sideeffect is a slight loss of libido but worst sideeffect is the delay :-(
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> -I have the impression that Nardil can even be more addictive than benzos (because it works?)
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> -Even after 1.5 weeks there are remaining Nardil effects in your blood. I guess that there are some strong metabolites working at receptors just like other ssris.
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> ~sdb
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