Posted by reefer on January 2, 2006, at 18:15:39
In reply to buprenorphine for depression » reefer, posted by pseudoname on January 2, 2006, at 12:40:58
> Hi, reefer. Yes, I read your post about self-prescribing bupe. *I* am now taking Subutex for depression because of what I read on Babble! Mostly Elizabeth S.'s posts.
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Nice, i hope it'll work for you in the long run!> Buprenorphine can only be prescribed (in USA) by doctors with special SAMHSA waivers WHEN GIVEN TO *ADDICTS*.
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I'm in a EU country. Here Subutex can only be prescribed to addicts. There are two options though. "Norspan" which is a transdermal patch and comes in 5, 10, 20 mg per week. You switch the patch just ones a week. I think the 20 mg patch would work for me. And then theres temgesic which is just like Subutex but much lower dosed. 0.2 or 0.4 mg per tablet.
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> I assume you've used lots of drugs recreationally (given your nickname & black-market contacts). That may make pdocs reluctant to give you controlled substances. They don't want to get sued later for addicting someone to Subutex — they probably have no insurance for off-label prescriptions. And they don't want to enable someone's diversionary re-sales, for which the *docs* could get in serious trouble. So you should be willing to settle for Suboxone (less abusable, supposedly).
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Well the nickname goes way back. I used to smoke a little bit of weed in my younger years. I've tried most and every drug out there but i'm not and i have never been a serious drug user. Also i have never been arrested or have any documented drug use. And believe it or not. I don't have any black market contacts i go to places known to everyone as being the "bottom" of the world. Like the places you end up in when you really hit rock bottom. I used to get scammed a lot before i learned all their tricks. Now most of the people around there recognize me so at least i dont get ripped off anymore. Actually i went there today and got me two 8 mg's to cover for this week.> If 8 mg lasted you 14 days, you were at a pretty low dose. I take up to 4mg a day; other non-addicts take even more for depression.
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I can honestly say that 0.5 mg * 3/day is enough for me. But i do take up to 4 mg/day mostly out of lazyness to cut the pills into smaller pieces. I just break it in half and let it melt in my mouth. I used to insufflate it but i couldn't stand the constant irritated and runny nose. Also using it sublingual seems to only give 30 - 50% of the effect compared to intranasal or s.c. injection. By this i dont mean it's more euphoric or anything. I just mean it's more economic. My girlfriend doesn't really like me using it any other way than sublingual.>
> Subutex is the only "antidepressant" that's ever really worked for me. I've been on it 7 weeks.
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I bet it will keep working! It's the BEST antidepressant ever. At least for me it is.Thanks for the advice, i will keep it in mind. I'll also resarch where there are some pain clinics i could try and talk with some docs.
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