Posted by KaraS on October 2, 2005, at 18:38:46
In reply to Re: bio-identical hormones, hormone testing, etc. » KaraS, posted by Sarah T. on September 29, 2005, at 19:50:36
Hi Sarah,
> How are you doing? I owe you a reply from a week or so ago regarding tolerance. I'm still mulling over that issue. Anyway. . .
Doing ok. How about you? Re: the tolerance issue. BarbaraCat posted a link on tolerance which has a completely different explanation from the link that someone else here posted recently (the one that I sent to you). Hers suggests NMDA antagonism to prevent tolerance. This is consistent with what I've read in the past. As I experiment more with Dexedrine, I'll have more direct experience to comment on.
> Thank you for the information on hormone testing and the transdermal bio-identical hormones. I know I will have to do something. Although I have not yet reached menopause, I am already going through hormone hell. It really is like having PMS every day of the month, every month, for the entire year. Which hormones are tested? Estrogen, progesterone, and what else?I know that BarbaraCat has answered this question already with more knowledge than I have on the topic. I'll just add that the better doctors probably test for most or all of these things and include them in the cream though I'm sure there are some who just deal with estrogen and progesterone.
> I have some questions about those salivary hormone tests. I have taken several salivary cortisol tests, each kit made by a different company. The instructions were different, depending on which company made up the test. Some said you could not eat or drink before the test, but you could drink water and rinse your mouth. Others said you couldn't even have water for two hours before the test. One involved spitting into a test tube. Another involved chewing on a cotton cylinder for a few minutes, and then placing the wet cotton in a test tube. I'm surprised that there is so much variation in procedure for the same test.
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> The problems you and Barbaracat mention regarding Prempro are sickening, inexcusable, unethical and probably illegal. I am disgusted with pharmaceutical companies. They lie, they manipulate and massage the data from clinical studies in order to make the results appear to be something other than what they really are. They exclude patients from studies who are unlikely to have the response they are looking for. I wish we could have faith in these people, but, at this point, I'm starting to think it's impossible to trust pharmaceutical companies -- or anyone -- when that much money is at stake.Definitely sickening, inexcusable, unethical but unfortunately not illegal to use horse's urine and synthetic progestins - unless you're referring to the skewing of the data. I'll never forget when I learned about Prempro vs. bioidentical hormones. I was in shock. I didn't consider myself naive prior to that but this really shook me up and made me realize just how far the drug companies would go.
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