Posted by Jazzed on July 20, 2005, at 20:36:59
In reply to Re: Bad (but expected) news about ADs, posted by linkadge on July 20, 2005, at 16:38:46
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> Canadian suicide rates increased
> http://fathersforlife.org/health/cansuic.htm
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> US suicide rates decreased (although very insignificantly)
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> Linkadge
>I'm sorry, but IMO this study is seriously flawed. If you go by this study, which never mentions ADs, it is not ADs which are to blame for the suicide rates, but it's women who are to blame! Could it get any more obvious that this article is a little about suicide, and the whole site is a lot about how women are to blame for all of societies evils? The Canadian portion of this study doesn't take into account the rise in population during this time period, and it does mention the disproportionate number of suicides in the prison population. Below are just a few of the quotes that make my case that this article is not about suicide at all, so I would seriously have to question the data.
"The Canadian society is far too busy worrying about far more valuable victims of violent deaths, the total of half a hundred women that are being brought to their deaths each year as victims of so-called domestic violence. We can't spare the time worrying about a few hundred boys who kill themselves each year — as the 25 or so boys aged 10-14 who commit suicide each year are just the tip of the iceberg."
"Note that with the increase in the divorce rate that resulted from the 1968 Divorce Reform that there were slight concurrent increases in the male suicide rate. "
" Do we perhaps not worry about the increasing epidemic of boys' suicides because subconsciously the thought is in people's minds that every dead boy is a good boy? We can't even get statistics that cover the period from 1993 until now to determine whether the problem of boys' suicides has leveled off since 1992 or is getting worse. Would that be the case if the sexes were reversed? "
"It appears that Statistics Canada is actually involved in actively hiding the gruesome truth from the public: Canadian men kill themselves at rates far higher than at any time before in Canadian history and have been doing so since 1971, ever since the liberation of women got well under way. "
"An analysis of the data to determine the reasons for the regional differences will most likely provide clear indications of what drives people to suicide, but because the vast majority of the victims are men it isn't very likely that the analysis will be made. Men don't seem to be worth the effort. "
"After all, a man who can't see his children but must pay for their support, who lost his home but must still pay for its upkeep, who lost his means of transportation but must still provide the funds that make it possible for his ex-wife to pursue her interests..."
"All the above factors can be seen to be directly linked to the bias in family courts. Once the control of his life has been taken away from an individual he no longer has the ability to solve his problems. That leads to high hopelessness and low level of self-esteem. Yet, study after study ends with the remark that it is not fully understood what is the cause for the ever-expanding epidemic of suicides by men who are in their prime. "
"Divorce and separation not only increase suicide risk for men but also for children. "
"True, men are far more likely than women to commit suicide after divorce and separation."
"Joint custody awards ought to improve that sorry state of affairs "
USA:
"The number of male suicide victims rose in virtually every year during the eighteen-year 1979 - 1996 interval, whereas the number of female victims of suicide was generally on the decline in virtually every year. ""In other words, more American boys and men died during and on account of the War of the Sexes than died in all military conflicts in which the USA were involved during the 20th century."
"Where are the memorials for the war-dead of the War of the Sexes, the Rout of the American Males? A total of 800,000 boys and men gave their lives not in the service of their country but to cater to equal rights for women, and there's not a single memorial or cenotaph to mourn their passing. "
And on and on and on ad nauseum!
Jazzy
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