Posted by Maxime on May 31, 2005, at 9:31:06
In reply to Re: My thoughts/experiences on Nardil, posted by Chairman_MAO on May 30, 2005, at 20:06:26
It's great to hear when something works so well so well for people. I really have any answers for your questions, just possible suggestions.
1-Edema - Maybe there is something herbal you can take/drink. Drinking a lot of water might help since it flushes everything out. Check with the Alternative board.
2- Weight Gain - I am possitive that read somewhere that part of the weight gain is from craving carbs and the other is metabolic. The metabolic portion you don't have control over. I haven't been able to find the article.
3- Drowsiness - I saw an article that said it was safe to add Provigil. Of course this might give you anxiety which is what you don't want.
Keep us update if you find the solution to any of these problems.
Maxime
> OT: First off, I was on vacation, so if anyone was trying to contact me via babblemail or email, try again, and I will respond.
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> I am on week two of Nardil at 90mg, and I love it. I never thought I'd find something that worked better than the Parnate I was on, but indeed it does. I do miss the dopaminergic "push" that Parnate provided, but Nardil's effect on my anxiety is magical. My social phobia and other anxiety issues are simply gone, and I love it. Needless to say, I'm not depressed; I can't wait to see what this is like after two more weeks.
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> Regarding the anorgasmia: I have a fantastic solution: cabergoline. I take more (500mcg once daily) than the dose recommended for prolactin suppression (500mcg twice weekly), but that is what it took to get a response. I have no side effects from the cabergoline whatsoever, just increased drive and a return of orgasm! There is NO NEED for anyone to suffer this side effect, because cabergoline is available to treat it. It also jacks up the libido quite nicely. My med cocktail:
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> 22.5mg (total 90mg) Nardil qid (taking it this way minimizes the "Nardil nod" that I hope goes away at some point)
> 4mg buprenorphine sublingual qid (goes wonderfully with the Nardil for both motivation, mood elevation and anxiety)
> 500mcg cabergoline qd
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> I also take 20mg Cialis fairly regularly, as I buy it (and cabergoline) from a research chemical supplier so I can afford to do this. If anyone needs an affordable source for these, babblemail me and I can help you.
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> What I'm wondering about Nardil:
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> 1) Has anyone had any success minimizing/eliminating carb cravings and/or weight gain? I am working out 4-5 times per week (30-45 mins cardio + 30-45 mins weight training--IN PUBLIC AT A GYM(!)--neither of which I could do without my meds!) but still worry about gaining weight and/or keeping fat on despite working out. Will this suffice? I try to keep snacking to a minimum, and when I do, I usually make it a piece of fruit or whatnot.
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> 2) Drowsiness. Sometimes about 1-2 hours after I take a dose, I feel like going to sleep, but only if I am sitting still. If I am walking around, I do not get nearly as drowsy. Does this ever go away, or will I have to take modafinil/pemoline/etc for it?
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> 3) Edema. Slight swelling in my feet. Does this ever go away?
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> Thanks for your help and support, guys. I never imagined such a normal[ly pleasurable] existence was possible! Rather, it seemed as if such a life was reserved for others, but not for me. I am so grateful for my second chance at life at only 25 years old!
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> Again, if anyone needs an affordable way to obtain tadalafil or cabergoline, babblemail me. There is no reason why anyone should trade a sex life for relief with Nardil.
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