Posted by sukarno on May 3, 2005, at 6:31:22
In reply to Re: Survector expired » sukarno, posted by ed_uk on May 2, 2005, at 10:48:00
Hi Ed! :-)
How are you doing now? Are you still off medication? I went off nortriptyline abruptly years ago and the only "withdrawal" effect I felt was a sensation of pressure in the head, but that didn't happen all the time. I wonder if you are experiencing any withdrawal reactions from discontinuing lofepramine.
"Btw, Seroxat was the last drug to receive bad publicity in the UK. Effexor hasn't received any bad publicity yet, most people will not have heard of it. Doctors are prescribing a lot of Effexor at the moment, I imagine there'll be a documentary about the withdrawal symptoms soon!"
Is it difficult to get Seroxat now in the UK?
Effexor has a nasty reputation among patients with regards to withdrawal symptoms/reactions upon tapering or rapid/abrupt discontinuation. I'm sure they'll restrict that one too in due time.
Do you know if amphetamine is metabolised by CYP2D6?
Oh, last night I had a severe headache...well, I've had headaches for the entire month I've been on Stablon and last night was too intense for me so I went to two different doctors. The first doc said my BP was 140/80 and prescribed captopril 12.5mg but I didn't take it. I took another Xanax instead and an hour later I got a second opinion at another clinic and my BP was 120/80.
He prescribed tramadol 50mg, but I didn't fill the prescription because I'm afraid of side effects.
I wonder if tramadol is metabolised by 2D6... I was reading that it is pain killer, but also a mild inhibitor of reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin, so taking it with TCAs can increase the risk of seizure. (I read that from Rxlist.com)
I've never tried MAOIs because of the strict diet. I've heard of people having hypertensive crisis even though they didn't eat tyramine-rich foods and reports of liver damage with phenelzine. Hmm... then again, I've heard that phenelzine is great for panic attacks. Seems risky because I am already prone to fluctuations in BP.
I remember before I was on medication for anxiety and panic disorder that I had BP of 145/90.. I was quite nervous though. After getting on Tranxene the BP went down to normal but over the years my BP has risen..not to what anyone would consider "high". I think the highest I've seen it is 150-something/95 when I was having severe headaches from low dose Effexor (6.25mg).
I asked my doctor friend to help me find Survector since I know it was produced here in 2004, so she said she called the pharmacist and he is checking other pharmacies.
I wonder if manufacturer destroys the drug when it is expired and/or banned.. or if they sell the remaining stock. I'm not sure, but I hope I can at least try a small amount to see if I'll have headaches or other side effects.
It is strange that Survector was made the "black sheep" and scapegoated like that, when drugs of abuse like Xanax are still widely prescribed in almost all countries. Despite all the misprescribing of Valium, that was never pulled off the market despite reports of jaundice and abuse, but with Survector the whole world went nuts over a few hundred cases of abuse and liver problems... the vast majority did just fine on it.
I guess the SSRI manufacturers saw Survector as a threat to their market share and pushed the FDA and WHO to have it withdrawn.
:-(
It's sad to read stories where antidepressants have failed people, but Survector helped them....yet they struggle to find it because of their government's decision to ban it.
Very unfortunate. Barbiturates are still on the market. hmm... but they target Survector... sorry for the rant, it just seems fishy to me why it was pulled.
Paul
p.s. I have found that Survector is still being produced in Uruguay and Brazil...that is confirmed. I might check with the Philippines too, since they still sell methaqualone (Quaalude/Mandrax/Revonal)..I figure if they still sell rubbish like that, they should sell Survector.
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