Posted by not_so_pro_social on April 24, 2005, at 1:48:15
I'm sorry I'm posting it again, but I've added all the stuff that I have used so maybe that can help someone out in picking the right drug/med/combo :)
Hope you wont be mad :))
Here it goes:I suffer from rather "powerful" social phobia. Ok so i've been fighting with social phobia for over 5 years with little luck. Here is my story: I've tried various medications,ADs,supplements and of course drugs. Here is the list of things Ive tried:
- SSRIs were a joke. Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil - only f*cking side effects.
- Most people are helped in social phobia wiht Klonopin - I don't, it doesn't work at all. I've used up to 8mg/day to test if it could work.
-> Xanax - effective but tolerance went WAY UP VERY FAST. I've used it for 2 months - at first 1mg was enough, at the end of the 2nd month I needed 3mg and it didn't even work as good as 1mg at the beginning!
- other benzos - Valium, Medazepam, Bromazepam - practically no effect on social anxiety/phobia. (Do you think Rohypnol would be effective?)
->> Amisulpride (Solian) - 50mg/day . Worked great for 2 months, then pooped out. I've tried using it for another few months on/pff but it never worked again.
- Sulpiride 50-200mg- no effect
- Depakote - no effect
- Zyprexa up to 20 mg - no effect. gained f*cking 10 kgs of fat.
- St.John's Wort - no effect
-Reboxetine 8 mg - no effect
- Coffee - makes me pro-social for over up to an hour and then makes me extremely socially anxious.
- Pramipexole (Mirapex) - 1.5mg/day . Made me more confident, anti-depressed but didn't remove social phobia (maybe a little) plus it wasn't pro-social at all.
Ok here is the treatment which worked THE BEST for me (unfortunately I had to stop it because my GHB/Xyrem source has dried up
->>> Adderall + GHB - this was not only the best treatment for social phobia but it also made me SO PRO-SOCIAL as I have never been before in my life (even MDMA or alcohol doesn't work as good as this combo). I literally could walk to every girl and make small-talks and inteliggent conversations, which normally is impossible for me because of the anxiety. And dont think that i consider social anxiety as a problem with hanging out with girls - it is much much more complicated: fear of public speaking, fear of one-on-one conversation (even though Im not anxious when 3 ppl are involved), every thing I say I consider being, how to put it..hmm.. NOT RIGHT. tHIS combo totally removed all those symptoms. I wish GHB was more available, as it is wonderful anti-anxiety treatment (plus other benefits); too bad it was labeled 'date-rape drug' and scheduled.
Since GHB has not been available, I've been looking for some other treatment.
Lyrica (pregabalin) is not yet available in my country, but I dont think I could afford it - 600mg is effective in social phobia which probably will cost $100000. Lower doses are placebo and dont work (at least 150mg).
Nardil,Parnate - both are not available in my country, because they are irreversible MAOis - but there is possibility of importing those drugs. So here is my question - how much Parnate does one need in order to achieve social anxiety relief ? Importing Nardil is way too expensive (at least at 75-90mg dose). Oh so I've heard (read).
Moclobemide - what do you think of this reversible MAOi ?
Concerta (Ritalin XR) - is it as pro-social as amphetamines? There is no adderall in my country unfortunately and the illegal usage and "hard-to-dose thing" are 2 biggies.
What else can I try?? Dopamine agonists like Requip, Pronoran, Permax etc? Are dopamine agonists helpful in social phobia?
Tianeptine (Coaxil) 12.5mg/3x day - no effect
L-Theanine - no effect
Kava-Kava - I've used even very high doses (something up to 1g kavalactones - not kavakava)- no effect at all, even no anti-anxiety
Selegiline 5mg - no effect or even worsening of SP
Wellbutrin - didnt try but I've heard it increases anxiety
MST Continus 100mg, Heroin, Codeine - too drowsy to say that it could be helpful. I need something pro-social.->>> Tramadol - works at 400mg-600mg, but loses its effects - I can use it every 3-4 days :/. But its WONDERFUL treatment, not like morphine,codeine,heroin - Tramadol is actually VERY pro-social and anti-anxiety. Works for over 6-8 hours. Too bad I cant use it every day but oh well
And last but not least - ALCOHOL. Apart from amphetamine/G , another tremendous thing, although toxic. I use it very often in social situations, but also pray that G will come back soon :]
2 beers make me relaxed,talkative,pro-social,anti-anxiety. More (up to 5 beers or actually I prefer vodka) and I am extremely pro-social.
I don't think i need to write more about alcohol social effects, everyone knows how it worksMDMA - I won't comment it because everyone knows it is social lubricant like alcohol or G. And DEFINITELY not something being used long term/daily
Question popped into my mind: how effective are barbiturates in social anxiety? Or 5-HTP, Enada NADH, Ativan, Topamax, Luvox, Modafinil ?
As a final note I need to mention that I've been drinking to control my social phobia, since no other available treatment comes close to relieving my symptoms unfortunately (since GHB is nowhere near) ;(( That's why Im looking for some medicine to help me out with my condition and so I could stop poisoning my body with alcohol.
Ok I'm done rambling Thanks in advance to anyone who can give advice, recommendation or has similar problem and tried various substances and they worked.
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