Posted by Jake E on March 8, 2005, at 15:44:11
In reply to Re: Adderall tolerance, posted by mindreseacher on August 21, 2004, at 23:03:33
> Just a few comments about adderall, tolerance, and klonopin. Iv been on Klonopin for about 1 yr now, 2-3mg daily, Lexapro 10mg , Adderall 30mg 2x daily, and Subxone.
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> TO be brief about suboxone, its buprenorphine which helps with opiate addiction. Even though im an addicts to opiates, i dont abuse benzons, speed, alcohol, just seems that i just cant kick the opiates. But with this med combo, my cravings are about 80 percent lower that if i was just taking 1 med like zoloft or lexapro.
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> I dont feel high from subxone, even though its strong stuff, a partial mu agonist and kappa antangonist, so you dont feel much euphoria, but it kills any opiate withdrawls, and persons who are opiate nieve, will get a buzz.
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> Anyway, lexapro at 10mg, even at 20, cause absolutely no side effects which is great. But i lowered it to 10 because i take some 5htp at night. I figure this. Lexapro blocks the reuptake of seratonin. So 5htp creates seratonin , allowing more seratonin to be reuptaken by lexapro. I may be wrong, but...
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> Now Adderall. Tolerance is a big issue. Im at 30mg 2 x daily. I find 2 things that are causing a problem. THis dose wears off in 4-5 hrs, basically i dose every 5 hrs. I have to take an extra dose. I may run short but i do have (20) 30mg ritalins La. Which also may come in handy for 2 reasons.
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> Due to the fact im getting very tolerant to adderall, but i can tell its still helping, but i would like to give it a rest, so i figure, instead of stopping and going through withdrawls and sleeping 3 days, ill just take 2 ritalin la capsules daily, for 10 days. THis hopefully will help adderall get some potency back, iv read alot and i know there is a difference in ritalin and amphetamines due to amphetamines release dopamine and N/A and Ritalin like cocaine, block the reuptake. I still am researching more.
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> I take the klonopin basically at a dose of .5-1mg depending on my anxiety level, and to eliminate any anxiety from adderall. THis combo works very very well.
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> The only alternative i see are ordering smart nootropics drugs and giving them a shot or taking a maoi like paranate, due to my social phobia/add/depression.
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> But i do have a question. Would stopping adderall one day and switching over to ritalin for 10 days be ok? Or would maybe lowering my adderall dose and taking both?
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> thank you
> MRI've recently been experimenting with the memantine (Namenda)/adderall combo and have had some pretty amazing results.
I've been using 40mg memantine in the morning, first thing, followed by 40mg adderall. Every morning the adderall is just as effective as the previous morning. I get about 4-5 hours of effectiveness every day.
The memantine seems to reduce some of the side-effects of adderall, specifically the mood swings that typically occur when tolerance sets in. The anxiety isn't as bad either.
The rumors are true. Memantine does help with adderall tolerance.
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