Posted by lostforwards on November 9, 2004, at 9:17:23
In reply to Re: why not dopamine for depression?, posted by linkadge on November 9, 2004, at 8:28:52
> The reason dopaminergics are not more prescribed is that this socity has plenty of uppers (coffee cigarettes etc) but not enough agents that can help people let go of their unattainable neurotic dreams.
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> SSRI's promote contentment. The average depressed person these days is somebody who needs a bit of a break from their problems. Dopaminergics give you energy and pleasure sure, but they just keep the nightmare of your life spinning.
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> Plus they generally do nothing for anxiety, insomnia, loss of apetite, obsessive moods etc.
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> This is the way i see it.
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> There are two types of depressed people.
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> The two don't unsertsand the other one bit!
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I love this stuff. Maybe one day we will be able to choose our personality OR someone else will choose it for us. While we're not talking on the neurochemical level. I thought I might jump in.Sex, drive, and ambition are very important to a lot of people. So are neurotic dreams, if you want to call them that. I don't think a depressed person has the ability to actualize these dreams let alone think them through.
SSRIs do increase dopamine in some parts of the brain, and that's part of what makes them therapeutic. Dopamine plays an important role in thought too - especially in the frontal lobes, moreso than serotonin.
The danger with the medications is the 'establishment' can decide who we want to be.
Most commonly prescribed ADs in the 90s were SSRIs BUT some OCD traits and discontent aren't necessarily a bad thing and it's arguable whether they need to be treated and, if so, what they need to be treated with.That's what leads to change though -dicontentment, overthinking in the frontal lobes... look there's something wrong here, something has to be done as opposed to shrugging it off and carrying on.
They don't like that.
here's something to mull about:
The state of contentment is after the orgasm. Dopamine levels drop and serotonin levels rise.I'm just glad there are normal people in the world who don't need to tinker with their brain chemistry and become one or the other and who manage to avoid getting labelled with an illness for being extreme. ( plenty of people you could peg with ODD or hypomania who aren't ill at all )
I think I've rambled on enough. I love worrying about the future when I don't know enough about this stuff....
I think if these medications have the ability to change the tone of personalities, even in anecdotal reports, that we owe it to ourselves to look into even the most innane implications.
Finally, we've got to decide who's got control, us or them.
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