Posted by scott-d-o on April 9, 2004, at 15:14:09
In reply to Re: DL-Phenylalanine + Caffeine = amphetamine-like, posted by 1980Monroe on April 9, 2004, at 11:23:07
> I have experimented with supplements and other meds. such as wellbutrin, ginseng, caffeine.
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> None of them really do the trick, exept one supplement, DL-Phenylalanine is the only one that really comes close, because it is metabolized to dopamine in the body, it defiently does raise your mood.
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> I also read that it is converted into the body's natural ampetamine, its chemical structure is very close to amphetamine.
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> When DL-Phenylalanine is taken with Caffeine or Ginseng (an easy was is No-Doz caffeine pills) it gives a close simulation of amphetamine, but its still not the real thing. Thats really the only imitation that can get close, but its over the counter, so there some good news. You can purchase DL-Phenylalanine at usally GNC, and other supplement stores.
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> Hope that was Good Info.dl-phenylalanine is metabolized into phenethylamine (PEA) which does closely resembles amphetamine in structure. if you take PEA and you add a methyl group (CH3) onto one of the carbon atoms, you get amphetamine. If you add another methyl group, this time onto the nitrogen, you get methamphetamine.
an interesting experiment to try would be to combine the amino acid l-methionine (an amino acid which likes to methylate) with dl-phenylalanine. perhaps you could generate your very own endogenous amphetamine?
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