Posted by Sad Panda on March 14, 2004, at 10:46:00
In reply to Re: Trying Nardil?, posted by mark57 on March 14, 2004, at 9:30:54
> > > Hi, I've been taking Wellbutrin SR now for about 3 weeks. There's been no improvement with my depression. The only things I've noticed is more memory loss and being a lot more irritable/short tempered. I don't know if these side effects would eventually go away but I don't really want to wait and see. I'm thinking of trying Nardil now. I was on Parnate several months ago but didn't get much help, although my doc wouldn't let me increase the dosage over 60mg/day which I think might have helped. I've also been on a lot of the SSRIs without much help.
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> > > Anyway now I'm wondering about trying Nardil. I have SAD as well as depression and have read that Nardil can be a great drug for this. My biggest concern is that Nardil will make me to drowsy. I understand that this can be one of its side effects. I already have a lot of trouble with that. I couldn't tolerate Xanax or Klonopin because I was falling asleep all the time. And I know you're not supposed to take stimulants with the MAOIs.
> > > Has anyone had positive experience taking Nardil when they also had fatigue/sleeping to much problems to start with.
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> > > Thanks very much.
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> > > Mark
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> > Hi Mark,
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> > When you say SAD do you mean Seasonal Affective Disorder or Social Anxiety Disorder?
> > Would you describe your depression as atypical or melancholic?
> > Do you have any response from Parnate?
> > How were the side effects?
> >
> > Sorry to answer a question with ten questions. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Panda.
> >
> >
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> That's ok. I meant social anxiety disorder. I'm not sure what the different kinds of depression are. I just haven't had much luck finding anything to treat mine.
> I noticed a little improvement with the Parnate in being less depressed and some more energy but not much. I wanted to increase the dosage above the "recommended" 60mg/day max but my doc wouldn't do it. I really didn't have any negative side effects from it. The diet restrictions weren't really a problem either.
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> Mark
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>IMHO, the best & strongest meds are the MAOI's Nardil & Parnate & the TCA Clomipramine. If you are use to life with an MAOI & it's no hardship for you, I would ask the doc for a higher dose of Parnate or find another doc that is more confident in giving a higher dose.
Atypical Depression is the more common type primary symptoms are over-eating(hyperphangia), over-sleeping(hypersomnia), mood reactivity & rejection sensitivity.
Melancholic Depressive Type suffer from Insomnia & Lack of appetite.Parnate is the best medicine for Atypical Depression, it is, supposedly, the most stimulating.
Clomipramine is possibly the best for Melancholics & OCD.
Nardil is the best were Anxiety is the major problem, it enhances GABA as well as 5-HT, NE & Dopamine. If Benzo's put you to sleep, Nardil probably will too.If the SSRI's don't work for you, but you are really happy with your doctor, Effexor maybe worth a try. It's a good med, but hell to withdrawl from.
Cheers,
Panda.
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