Posted by Questionmark on March 3, 2004, at 10:01:22
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin Withdrawal » Chairman_MAO, posted by Althea8869 on February 29, 2004, at 10:48:59
Chairman, great points. Such a good point about the "bald-faced" b.s. from media, pharm companies, and doctors about physical dependence. So freaking true. And really good point regarding the PET scans and what they were supposed to show.
That's neat that Wellbutrin has such a mild withdrawal reaction. That makes sense though considering i've never heard or even read about anyone complaining about it.
It was also interesting to see you write that SSRI withdrawal is worse than that of opiates. i've been wondering about that a long time (since Paxil withdrawal was a never-ending nightmare, more or less, and i've never experience opiate w/drawal). i definitely believe it though (esp also since SSRIs exert their effects round the clock pretty much as opposed to the 4 or so hours of opiates). Knowing that infuriates me to think of how the SSRIs have become the freaking gold standard of antidepressant (and even antianxiety [?]) medication, and how everyone including doctors think they're so dam* safe and bad-side-effect free, and such an improvement to the drugs of old, and so on. Ridiculous. i wonder how many people have to try other SSRIs after having a definitely inadequate first trial of SSRI, before being able to try something else-- let alone a TCA or , God forbid, an MAOI. Ah it makes me sick.
Oh there never seems to be any consensus on this, but also, which do you think generally result in a worse withdrawal syndrome: benzodiazepines or SSRIs? (This includes variety and severity of withdrawal symptoms, as well as duration of withdrawal).Althea, the study you mentioned about the cancer drug, placebo, and hair loss is amazing. It's so weird though. i always feel that i could never be thAT susceptible to a placebo effect. For instance, it always used to tick me off so much when my one pdoc would just say or insinuate that certain effects from some drug i was on were basically just in my head, so to speak. And i'm so sure that i would easily be able to determine which drug i was taking (of those that i've taken) if given some kind of blind test (not within classes though, except Nardil vs. Parnate [MAOIs]). And yet this kind of strong placebo effect has been substantiated in a number of, if not many studies. So... i don't know, i'm not sure what i'm asking. It's just strange.
Oh and that was interesting about Ayn Rand.
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