Posted by Sad Panda on February 16, 2004, at 6:17:35
In reply to Re: Anyone have Excessive Daytime Sleepiness?, posted by utopizen on February 16, 2004, at 5:28:59
> > What are your other sleep patterns like- how is it for you at night?
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> Oh, I sleep throughout. It's often hard for me to sleep until around 2, but with Remeron I caqn enjoy a nice stuffy nose and be out by 10PM and be groggy still at 10AM.
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> So I'm going to see if it's possible to avoid Remeron tonight. I'm really, really getting sick of p-docs and their contempt with Ambien. What's wrong with a country that's so freely prescribing me Desoxyn, which is C-II, so I can stay awake with my sleepiness, but so hesitant to prescribe a C-IV, Ambien, so I can sleep healthy and feel refreshed the next day?
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> Seriously, why are amphetamines more comfortable for doctors to prescribe than Ambien? I've seen lots of psychiatrists. They'll now and then suggest Straterra, or if they're really pathetic, Wellbutrin, will magically dissipate all of your sleepiness or ADD, even though it's not well supported at all and I'd like a single person to ever say they've quit amphetamines for ADD b/c of Wellbutrin. I don't think it's happened once. But okay, they very rarely will press you on this, unless you've got like a coke habit history.
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> So they have no problems keeping me awake, just putting me to sleep is an issue. Why? I can't understand. No clinical research has ever supported anything suggested Ambien is addictive. It's just because Ambien's makers haven't bothered to invest enough money in having studies that were longer than 6 months, so because of that there's no benefit of the doubt. And why? Seconal. Sleep=Seconal to any psychiatrist. It makes no sense. It's not rational.
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> Oh, and I've had a PSG, MSLT, Titration study, CPAP, now on BiPAP for my borderline sleep apnea, at an apnea index of 4, but because I have ADD my doc wants me on it because he thinks I might be more sensitive to even a few apneic episodes.
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> But tell him I haven't been using the BiPAP because I have insomnia, and he goes crazy. Not crazy enough to give me Ambien, just enough to be hostile that I am so irresponsible I always feel like partying by staring at the ceiling for 8 hours in the dark, because I'm a rebel like that and all.
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> I hate this. What's wrong with our society when sleeping is harder to do with meds than staying up is? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
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> Oh, and my little trendy sleep doc wants me to use the BiPAP apparently so much that he'd rather guarantee I don't sleep by having me wear it than simply treatt my insomnia first. Apparently treating insomnia is beneath him or something, I don't know.
>How much Remeron are you taking? 30mg seemed to keep me sleeping for longer than 15mg did. Took me about 2 months to get use to it. Now I sleep like a baby.
Cheers,
Panda.
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