Posted by ace on December 7, 2003, at 22:23:52
In reply to Ace, please help ...., posted by maryhelen on December 4, 2003, at 21:27:33
> Hi Ace:
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> I am in a state of very serious depression. I have been taking Nardil since November 3rd. I was supposed to start with 15 mg. for one week and then 30 mg. the next week. Although I do not post often I do read them frequently and have followed your experiences. I went with what you advised which was 45 mg. for the first week and 60 mg. weeks 2 - 6, which is where I am with it now.OK, my suggestion is now, right now, raise the dose right up to 90mg. Not 75mg. 90mg.
Although, I am feeling seriously depressed and discouraged, I am going to go the distance with the Nardil.That's a great attitude. A question: where are you from and who is manafacturing your Nardil?
I do have some questions however, and wonder if you would be able to give me your opinion:
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Sure.
> 1) I had just returned to my job after a 2 1/2 year sick leave dealing with the depression, only to have been 'hit' with it again. My boss was not compassionate or caring enough to help me get through it but has made impossible and unneccesary demands on me and it has become impossible for me to continue.You should not have to continiue in a state of severe depression. When I am in bad depression to get out of bed is hard enough. Depression is rarely alleviated by hard work, as so many think.
I ended up with so much stress, anxiety, chest pains and tightness (something that was never part of my depression) that I took myself to hospital to make sure I wasn't having a heart attack. Heart is fine. I won't continue with the difficulties presented at work, but have come away with such a feeling of inadequacy, sense of worthlesness, hopelesness and I am sure an underlying anger, of which I have not been able to feel yet.These emotions...accept them all. But at the same time know that you yourself is worth more than any of them. Realise that you DESERVE to be happy, no matter how hard the 'other part' of your brain resists this thought.
My question is, if I am dealing with a situational depression over the loss of my job (and probably my apartment) can the Nardil break through and help.Absolutely. When Nardil kicks in, you will feel so good and confident that the loss of a job is irrelevant- you can just find another! Nardil kills depression period. It doesn't matter the type of depression or why your depressed. It's waiting that is the hard part.
It probably sounds like a strange question, as why else would we be taking meds, but normally I have been a depressed person for no 'apparent' reason for most of my life.
You essentially are aking whether Nardil can help exogenous depression (losing job, house- depression due to theses) and exogenous depression (depression for no 'apparent' reason).
My answer is ABSOLUTELY YES!.
Been through the mill with meds, ECT, hospitalizations, counselling, talk therapy ....... I was taking Parnate for 2 years but did not find it to be very effective.Parnate was a horror for me- made me real depressed.
8 months ago my pdoc added Lamitcal to the Parnate. The Lamitcal worked remarkably fast and within a week I felt better that I ever had in my 51 years. Unfortunately, this was to be short lived and after 3 weeks the Lamitcal stopped working. We adjusted the dose from 150mg. to 200 and then to 300. but after 8 months my doctor suggested to come off both the Parnate and Lamitcal slowly and to try Nardil. I hope I am making some sort of sense.
Lamictal with the Nardil is alaways something to consider to make the Nardil kick in faster. Also 2.5mg Zyprexa for a week or two might do the trick (no higher than 2.5mg in my opinion)
> 2) I have chronic pain from arthritis, degenerative disc disease and osteoporosis. Although I try not to, I take up to 10 percocets a day. These pills also help a bit with the depression as well as some of the pain. My question is, do you think that this type of opiate would work against what the Nardil is trying to do?
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From my research, no. I can't see any serious interaction between the two.> Any comments, Ace, would be very much appreciate. I hope things are going well with you.
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> maryhelenThanks. Just keep going with the Nardil. Leave it at 90mg for at least 4 weeks before considering anything. Try to be patient with s/effects.
When Nardil finally kicks in you will have this sill grin on your face which you can't remove!
But once again, can you tell me where you are and who your Nardil manafacturer is: I wan't to see if you are on the old version of Nardil.
Take Care, hang in there and refuse to surrender,
Ace.
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