Posted by galkeepinon on September 20, 2003, at 1:02:19
In reply to re: banab, Gal, sus, Mariposa (?): late(r) lex SEs, posted by lil' jimi on September 19, 2003, at 16:10:15
Jim, Thank you SO very much for taking the time to write this! YES! I will update you on my psychiatrist appt next time I see him and I hope others will also. I will definately ask him exactly the things you bring up here. I, personally have posted before about the fact that I have skipped menses, something still yet to be relieved/cured, whatever. I take Provera on occasion to bring about my period. It is not healthy not to get one.
I ended up taking 3mg of Klonopin last night and 50mg Lamictal to see if I could decrease some anxiety (my rationale anyway) and all I ended up with was a huge headache today. BUT, the extra Klonopin did help me and the nervous/very anxious feeling in my tummy.
So, yes, a lot remains to be seen from ALL of us taking Lexapro.
I will definately, like I said, post more when I see my psychiatrist in 2 weeks.
Jim~you da bomb!!! (in a good way of course)
HA!!! Thank you so much again for your support, insight, smarts, queries, and persistence:-):-)
Have a great weekend!
Gal
> hi folks,
>
> i have been keeping up reading here and
> ... i have been thinking about these late onset SEs you're having ... ...
>
> Gal wrote this:
> > Hi Esmarelda, I saw your post. I am having EXTREME anxiety yesterday and today. I start week 7, I believe on Friday. I'm so anxious right now I can't even think straight. I don't believe I have ever had this feeling~it's just plain ole anxiousness. Does this pass?
> > Any insight anyone? I can't believe it has anything else to do with besides the Lex, because I have read some posts about what seems to happen to some at week 6 or 7. The depression is controllable, but I am anxious as heck!!!
> > Typing fast, walking fast, shaking, heart skips, clenching jaw.
> > Help please?? :(
> > I am also losing my balance, it's scaring me just a tad. >
>
> ... of course my heart goes out to y'all ...
> ... we have gotten enough of these reports to where it looks like a pattern ... ... and, as Gal has suggested, this would be a pattern we would Not want to see ... ... better said and dealt with than to be in denial though ...
>
> ... but let's look at this a little more
> ... we have to see if this IS a pattern really ...
> ... we do have a cluster of events ...
> ... of four cases (hate to call y'all "cases" there ... sorry) which have this similar adversity ...
> ... now, no matter what i say here, i do Not want to trivialize your suffering
> ... ... i have deep faith and respect for your reports
> ... and real concern for your well being ...
>
> but, say, very speculatively here, that there are even a couple dozen folks with this kind of experience
> ... ... not at all impossible, if we consider the posters as representaive of some number of non-posters ...
>
> still, when compared to the thousands of lex users, these events seem less common and really too rare to label a trend ... ... yet anyway ...
>
> and there are more than a few who have done very well up to 6 months (so far) and beyond ... i saw a post from Bil L yesterday and he is still doing fine ... ... he's been at 20 mg for a year .... and there are perhaps a dozen posters (i know of) who have gotten beyong this 7 week itch without a relapse ...
>
> my speculation is that the main herd of lex users are tromping along our main sequence unperturbed ... ... while a smaller population of folks have detoured into this problem area here ...
>
> i thought about labeling these events "late onset lex SEs" ... but decided that didn't pay sufficient respect to the fact that you already had your non-late SEs too ...
>
> ... of course, your ~ jim here is trying to avoid the "p. o." term
> ... ... (well no, Not "po'd" ... "poop out")
> ... no one here wants to hear that ...
>
> then i recalled Mariposa's posts about upping her dose to 20mg
> ... ... as she struggled to get a medico to write her a 20mg script, she said that her new pdoc's theory was that she had adapted to the 10 mg dose and as her liver learned to be more proficient in metabolizing her dose, it had caught up with her by effectively breaking down her beneficial metabolites more quickly than her 10mg could make up for ... ... so she upped her dose and is doing much better ...
>
> ... this parallel does fail in one respect ... Mariposa's symptom was depression, not so much anxiety ... ... nevertheless, similar mechanism may be at work in your cases as well ...
>
> now we could ignore the rest if the iceberg and focus just on Gal, susssus and banab ...
>
> ... it remains to be seen if these parallels hold up over time ... ... three events may well have completely different etiologies ... and time may tell ... should this prove true, then these events may be even less representative of effects we might see in the main lex herd ...
>
> i remember once we had a minor panic break out on the tread because a poster gained like 8 pounds over one weekend ... two more reports of weight gain came in response ... ... some folks have been prescribed lex for eating disorders and these folks were fixing to panic ... ... and it wasn't making me real happy either ...
>
> ... within like a day and half, the first poster posted that her period had started and that she felt this explained her weight gain and her other adverse effects ... ... another began her period ... and was relieved that it wasn't the lex ... ... and everybody calmed down then ....
>
> (i am a feminist and believe in women's liberation (even though most women don't ... seem to anymore) and in no way intend to demean women ... especially for their reproductive powers ... which i worship)
> (and i am not speculating about anyone's current menstrual cycle(s) here ... either)
>
> anyway, let's all just keep tabs on this and see how it plays out ...
>
> ... i always want everyone to keep their prescribers updated about their SEs
> ... 1) they need to know
> ... 2) we need them to know
> ... 3) they may be able to help
> ... 4) we have to educate them about SEs because they don't take lexapro ...
> ... Yet !
> .... HA!
>
> in this case, i think we may benefit by having each of ya'll (Gal, Sus, Banab) contact your doctor, discuss it with them, and then come back here and compare notes ...
> so i'm calling these events "relapses" ... for now ...
>
> ... the thread continues to show no real signs of lex poop out as a consistent syndrome ... and where we have seen relapse, we have seen upping the dose as effective ... ... so far ... ...
>
> ... i know we must all have our fingers crossed for good luck here ... i do !
>
> well, those are my thoughts, as speculative as they are ... sorry i don't have anything better to offer ... ... i hate feeling like i'm throwing a starving dog a rubber bone !... sorry ...
>
> and now i'm starving ... (and in my own way, a dog too!) ... for your responses! ... ... as always ... from one and all ... post on posters!
>
> and drink water, Please ??
> do not let yourself get dehydrated ....
>
> TAKE CARE ! ! ! ! !!
> ~ jim
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