Posted by Larry Hoover on April 25, 2003, at 10:30:15
In reply to Glycine questions for Larry Hoover, posted by bluedog on April 25, 2003, at 7:02:57
> Hi Larry
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> You might remember a discussion I had with you recently regarding Magnesium Chloride and I was able to get Pharmaceutical grade Mag Chlor (conforming to BP grade) from the following company cheaply in my city under the Unilab brand-name.
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> see
> http://www.ajaxfinechem.com/products/products.html
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> My bedtime dose is currently around 150-300mg of the MagChlor solution. I have used the method you recommended (and formula you gave me) and dissolved 250g of the MagChlor in 1 litre of water to give a convenient dose of a 5ml teaspoon to give me 150mg of elemental Magnesium. So therefore at bedtime I take 1-2 teaspoons (5-10mls)
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> I am now considering adding Glycine to the mix and I can get pure BP grade Glycine also from Unilab at a fraction of the cost to what it sells for in health food stores.
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> Like before you can navigate to the spec sheet on on the Unilab Glycine using the product tab at this link which I have already added above in this post.
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> http://www.ajaxfinechem.com/products/products.html
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> My questions to you are as follows Larry:-
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> 1. Glycine is supposed to have good effect for anxiety and depression...Right?????If Eby says so. It's worth a try. YBMV. Your Brain May Vary.
> 2. How many grams of the Glycine crystals of this particualar brand (ie Unilab) should I add to my MagCHlor mix????The molecular weight of glycine is 75.04. The formula for magnesium glycinate gives two glycines for every magnesium. With the atomic weight of magnesium at 24.31, the mass ratio of glycine to magnesium is 150.08:24.31, or about 6.2. So, you would have to add 6.2 (250 grams) or about 1.5 kilograms of glycine.
I'm going to suggest to you that it may be short-sighted to add that amount of glycine to your solution. Up until now, there has been no substance in the solution which would promote bacterial growth. I suspect that dissolved glycine would change that. Given that it would take months to consume all the solution, the potential for contamination might be very real.
> George Eby at his magnesium site says if you add Glycine to a MagChlor solution it will give you the same effects as consuming Magnesium Glycinate (but this way I do it at a fraction of the cost....besides the fact that magnesium glycinate is almost impossible to get here in Australia). However when I look at the chemical formula of the Glycine my eyes just glaze over and I wouldn't have a clue as to how many grams of the Glycine I should add to my 250g in 1 litre of water MagChlor solution.
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> 3. Could you please give me some advice on this topic in order that I can get the effect that George Eby describes at his site?????
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> Thank you in advance Larry :)
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> Warm regards
> bluedogGoing back to the mass ratio (and there's nothing saying that you must exactly match the mass ratio found in magnesium glycinate), you'll see that for every teaspoon of your magnesium solution, you conveniently want to take one gram (more or less) of glycine. I.e. 6.2 (150 mg) = 930 mg.
Far better that you create a separate solution giving you about one gram of glycine in a convenient measure. Make only small volumes at a time, or...
Given a density of 1.16 (that's 1.16 grams/cubic centimeter), you can approximate 5 grams per teaspoon (that's a measuring teaspoon, equivalent to 5 mL). You could make up small batches of solution by stirring a scant teaspoon into a glass of water, and drinking half one night, and half the next (refrigerating the remainder). Taken with two teaspoons of your magnesium solution, you'd be very close to approximating the proportions of mag glycinate.
Good luck!
Lar
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