Posted by ace on April 12, 2003, at 0:01:54
In reply to Ace: Anxiety Depersonalization and Nardil ?ace, posted by temoigneur on April 10, 2003, at 21:32:31
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> I went through a lot of changes evironmentaly in my life recently. I'm severely anxious - OCD GAD, SP, and Panic Attacks, Ace I thank you for your response, so encouraging, you mentioned something, that until now I hadn't give much thought, (although looking back I think it was there) you said you also suffered depersonalization, Let me give some background before I ask a question if I may, last time I came off medications was associated with a horrible period in personal life, and I expected this time that when I started coming off of Effexor, it would only add to the anxiety I was already experiencing, the opposite happened, I felt no anxiety, but I also felt like I had lost touch with myself somehow, like my mind was a house, and many of the rooms had vanished, i don't know how to describe it, but Ace, I was wondering, my psychiarist wants me to just stay on the reduced dose of effexor and be happy with where I am, but I know my potential, and I want to try nardil, but this depersonalization frightens me, I think I associated the reduction in medication with the trauma I experiencesd last time I tried to reduce medication, (my theory) at that time, I was in a n unheathly environment, and I ended up burning myself with an iron to ward off suicidal thoughts. I'm just wondering as to what I can expect as far as piecing together my personality, should I push forward with the nardil, the time is right, I'm positioned to know if the nardil will work by the time I have to start school, and I have a very supportive underwstanding work environment, I've just feel dumb, and numb, a foreign feeling, I've always been neurotic, or drunk on pills, now I'm coming off them and I feel better, this isn't normal, it's just not. Do you have any suggestions, thanks so much for your imput.
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> Cheers, - I think highly anxious people have a lot to contribute, and can be intelligent, it's just channeling that raw intellect with the right meds or psychological/med treatment combo.
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> Hi friend,
To me, you sound very down and detached. This upsets me. If you are indeed down this is what we must get on top of first. Once out of depression one has the motivation to look for new options in life - and that's the great thing about life - There is ALWAYS some option to turn to. We just have to find the best ones.First of all, it sounds as if your medication is not working - otherwise you wouldn't be upset like this! Tell me, do you really want to stay on the Effexor? If not get off it. If your shrink has problems with this and is not willing to give you Nardil - find another one or even go to a GP. Educate yourself as much about these drugs as you can, so the new Dr. kknows you are responsible and not to be messed around with. After all, whose body is these drugs going into?
From your above description I think these meds would work great for your symptoms.
1. Nardil 90mg
2. Nardil 90mg + Lithium + (or) Klonopin + (or) Clonazepam.Try Nardil first, if not try the below. I would do Klonopin first, but consider all.
BTW, how old are you? Are you looking foward to school? In addition to your meds try to find something in life to be passionate about - I love chemistry and could study it all day and have fun (I do!).
Please stay in touch. I feel for you. But you are strong and brave the way you are going on. Any help I can offer is more than welcome.
Post back and let me know more about yourself and how you are going. We will get through this. Period.
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> Hi Ace, - you say you took the Nardil for a whole range of anxiety problems,
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> > Yes, these include OCD, GAD, SP, phobic Anxiety, Derealization (Depersonalization Syndrome), episodic depression and subclinical ADHD. All of these conditions, some immensly so, have been helped by Nardil.
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> > I have severe GAD, SP, and moderate OCD, I've been through the full range of pharmaceuticals, presently on high dosages of effexor, paxil, 2.5mg zyprexa + sleep meds, It leaves me tired 65% of the day, and I sleep 12 hrs/day in addition to that
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> > This doesn't sound too good!
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> > - I remain hopeful because there was a four month period when I first started prozac that I felt motivated, no anxiety, did very well in school, social life is great, do you think Nardil is worth a try
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> > What you wrote above there is how I feel 100% of the time. Only a minute bit of anxiety, and a fair bit of OCD. BUT Nardil has made me SOoooo happy and confident that the anxiety hardly ever phases me. It has turned my social life from nil to going out/getting gals phone numbers all the time! I mean, with Nardil I will approach any girl, no matter how beautiful!
> > Also with motivation, I am LOVING my university work, studying hard and enjoying every second of it. NO DEPRESSION AT ALL. Last year, on Zoloft, I had very bad periods of the above probs.
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> > MAOi's are only class I haven't tried.
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> > You want peace? Peace=Nardil
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> > Ace,
> > The Australian Heavyweight Champion of Nardil!!!!
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> > Nardil, 90mg, Lithium, 500mg.
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> > > > > Please! If you have taken Nardil for any extended period of time and then stopped (advised or unadvised), please answer the questions below (even if you did not have any problems with the drug).
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> > > > > 1) How long did you take Nardil?
> > > > > 2) What was the highest dose taken?
> > > > > 3) Why did you stop the medication(If you stopped)?
> > > > > 4) Which were your worst side effects?
> > > > > 5) How much time to kick in (at what dose)?
> > > > > 6) why did you used it to?
> > > > > 7) How was your life , before and after Nardil?
> > > > > 8) IS it difficult to follow the diet?
> > > > > 9) How many hypertensive crisis did you have?
> > > > > 10)Did you use any other drug together with nardi
> > > > > 11) How do you compare nardil with others drugs that you have taken before
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> > > > > Thank you so much , any other thing that you would like to tell me about Nardil is welcome
> > > > > even is they are bad things
> > > > > Help
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> > > > > Tepiaca
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> > > > 1. 4 months on it now.
> > > > 2. 120mg.
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> > > > 4. My penis doesn't want to work.
> > > > 5. 6 weeks - 4 weeks at 60mg.
> > > > 6. Multitude of anxiety problems.
> > > > 7. Before Nardil - Very restricted, scary, unhappy a lot...After Nardil- Confident, happy and motivated.
> > > > 8. No.
> > > > 9. I've had 1.
> > > > 10. I have just started Lithium with my Nardil.
> > > > 11. Nardil is THE best!
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> > > > Stop asking questions and just take it!
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> > > > Ace, NARDIL WHORE.
> > > > Nardil, 90mg. Lithium, 250mg. Diazepam 5-10mg prn.
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