Posted by colin wallace on February 20, 2003, at 6:21:25
In reply to Re:Lamictal + Prozac + Enada NADH + Beer = Giggle? » colin wallace, posted by Ron Hill on February 19, 2003, at 16:26:14
>Ron,
Nope, I'm not kidding at all.
I actually called in to a health food store with the intention of buying some fish oil(I take a small amount daily)and glucosamine.The cashier was discussing ENADA with a customer, and she mentioned how it had greatly helped a friend with chronic fatigue.
I've done a little homework in the last couple of days, and read that, amongst other things,ENADA is supposed to be able to increase dopamine levels sixfold.One of the main catalysts for my depression has been chronic muscle pain/stiffness, and incoordination(I'd long argued that these were not symptoms of my depression, rather a cause in itself).A very good neurologist I saw last year said that I had clear neurological symptoms(none of the 'biggies' though, thank God)which are 'inextricably linked' to the depression, but which one sparked the other is as yet unclear.Chicken and egg thing.
This is why I'm interested in ENADA;not so much for it's AD properties, more so for it's dopaminergic qualities and the role these play in muscle stiffness etc.
Anyhow, 5mg was too much(don't forget Lamictal is itself ALSO an AD)and it really did feel very much like SAM-E.Less activating, but potent nonetheless.I wasn't at all hypomanic, but very wired all the same.
And yes, a friend called around, and I drank around 9 cans of beer during the course of the evening.Not the wisest move I know(and I drink only rarely), but today I have NO hangover or ill-effects whatsoever!I usually crash badly.Down to ENADA? who knows.
I can still feel the 'buzz' from it today, but it's manageable now.
Verdict:great with beer-seems to prevent hangovers(off label use?!!)
Feels good, but 2.5mg would be quite enough.At some point I'll properly trial it for the myalgia symptoms.Col.
Colin,
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> You're kidding about the seven cans of beer, right? I hope so.
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> How does the Enada NADH (without the beer) make you feel? Since you don't currently have your Lamictal fully ramped up, the Enada NADH might induce some hypomania. Is that what is happening? Talk to me and please give me specific detail regarding what this stuff makes you feel like. Let's not run the risk of getting you all screwed up.
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> When I first took it, I felt like I would have become hypomanic if I had not had an effective moodstabilizer in place. The powerfulness of the supplement tapered from a rather high level initially to a moderate (yet still effective) level after about ten days.
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> I haven't seen the 2.5 mg tablets at the local nutritional stores, but you can, of course, order them on-line. For example: http://www.iherb.com/enada.html
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> -- Ron
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