Posted by MoQ on December 29, 2002, at 11:09:56
In reply to Re: Use of opiates in treating depression, posted by jimmygold70 on December 21, 2002, at 12:21:01
> Why mess with opiates? I'd bet you didn't try all treatment options.
>
> My protocol:
> 1) SSRI
> 2) Raise Dose
> 3) Switch SSRI with same higher dose
> 4) Add Edronex (or if not tolerated, move to high dose Effexor)
> 5) SSRI+Edronax+Remeron or Effexor+Remeron
> 6) Add Lamictal
> 7) Add Lithium
> 8) Add amantadine (Symmestrel)
> 9) ECT
> 10) MAO Inhibitor (Nardil/Parnate)
> 11) Going to a well known psychopharmacologist and staying there for a year+
>
> This works for 98% of depressed...
>
> Jimmy
>
> 10)Just a quick FYI: I have tried #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, and am now trying #11. The rest of the options (#7, 8, 9 and 10) were discussed with my psychiatrist of 11 years and her colleagues, and THEY recommended those were roads not to travel down. I am wondering if you are familiar at all with all of the studies that have been conducted regarding the positive anti-depressant effect(s) produced by SMALL AMOUNTS of opiates? (i.e., the fact that they were the medication of choice for depression up until the 1960's; that there has been extensive research conducted at hospitals such as one in Boston; and that there are researchers who are in the process of trying to develop medicinal agents that work with the use of an opiate ingredient). I am not "messing with opioids," I am trying to become as educated as possible on my condition and, after 11 years of suffering, am going through PROPER, MEDICAL channels to explore other treatment options, with the assistance of my doctor, psychiatrist, and now a psychopharmacologist. Perhaps you didn't mean to come across the way you did in your message, but, to say the least, I felt a bit attacked. You do not know my background or what courses of treatment I have undergone, and your tone was rather judgmental. I am just thankful there were other people who provided input, or I would have abruptly stopped looking for help on this site.
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