Posted by bluedog on December 18, 2002, at 10:17:50
In reply to Re: Fish oil is not a drug? - LARRY HOOVER » bluedog, posted by BeardedLady on December 18, 2002, at 7:01:16
> I think your message was for me (and Larry), since I was the one whose post you responded to.
Hi Beardy, I haven't seen many posts from you lately. I'm Glad to see you are still around and I hope you are starting to feel a little bit better since you lost your "little furry boy".
Yes you are right that this post was also directed at you. You'll have to forgive me because I'm also not thinking straight at the moment and my posts are also not particularly coherent. I generally need to check my posts at least ten times to check for spelling and grammar mistakes to get things at least half right and am not coping well at the current time. I returned to work on Monday after 4 months of sick leave and since returning to work I have suddenly become severely depressed again. I hope this is only a temporary thing and that my mood will soon stabilise again.
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> Yes, one gram of EPA. That's right. (My fish oil has EPA and something else--too lazy to look--that equals a gram of EPA when you take two.) Sorry I wasn't clear. It's confusing to me anyhow.I wasn't correcting you on that point but was relaying my personal doseages for Shelli. I hope you didn't feel I was being pedantic or anything like that because that was not my intention.
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> The Zone books all treat food like a drug, which really turns me off, as I like food and would rather enjoy it than it it as if I were simply filling my tank or tanking my meds.I HATE all books like the Zone diet books and the Atkins diet books etc. I think you can extract SOME useful information from these books but if you follow them religiously your life becomes a living hell filled with guilt and anxiety about what you eat. I mean in the Zone diet if you even so much as look at a banana you will be condemned to metabolic damnation and the fires of hell will consume your entire being.
I also believe food ought to be enjoyed and should be a pleasurable experience. What I was trying to say in my post was that from a purely bio-chemical perspective the body simply sees a molecule as a molecule and therefore to REDUCE the stress and anxiety that you can put yourself through you shouldn't make too big a deal between "real" food and dietary supplements. What I was trying to say is that fish oil supplements can actually be classed as "real" food and that it can form part of a healthy balanced diet where you can have a bit of everything in moderation (including Coke, chocalate, potato chips(crisps), french fries beer and pizza)
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> My only comment is that Eskimos are accustomed to eating that much fish and actually need the fat to help them through the winter months (I wonder if they have a lower incidence of depression--whether the fish oil makes up for the darkness-induced SAD that so many of us experience where it isn't nearly as dark!).I did make the point that I only consume 5 grams of fish oil compared to the eskimos 18 grams of fish oil daily. I agree that their environment necessitates such a high consumption but I am in no way saying that us westerners should consume that much omega-3 EFA's. I am proposing that we bring the amount of omega -3 consumption up to healthier levels that probably existed in earlier generations in the regions that most of us live in.
==================================================================================================> But, thrust into that lifestyle, we wouldn't fare so well. We don't have the evolution of our ancestors on our side.
When I talked about our ancestors I was not talking about our ancient ancestors but was actually talking about our grandparents from only a few generations ago who had a much healthier omega-3 to omega-6 ratio than the current crop of "baby-boomers" and their children. {I suppose that means US :) :) }
I was trying to emphasize that since the advent of the food processing industry (probably only since the last fifty years) that our consumption of omega-6 has risen exponentially and our consumption of omega-3 has dropped substantially. This has lead to problems in our societies health overall state of health (cardiovascular health, joint and tissue health and mental health) given our CURRENT evolutionary makeup and that this balance can be redressed by minimising the types of fats we currently eat too much of (mainly processed and hydrogenated vegetable oils) and by taking more omega-3 in the form of supplements because there are so few good natural sources of omega-3 left. In my grandfathers youth even the beef had quite good levels of omega-3 and margarine was not even invented yet.I again emphasise that you take some time to study the research and writings of Mary Enig Phd who is an absolute guru on this topic and has been a lone voice against the power of the food processing industry for over 20 years
==================================================================================================> I do believe that immersing yourself in the ways of another culture isn't necessarily a good thing for your own body, in that your body and those of your family members and associates are simply unaccustomed to those changes. Not that you wouldn't, in time, adapt.
I believe we can learn alot from other cultures and have the option nowadays to pick and choose the good parts from the diets of other cultures and incorporate it into our own diets. I strongly believe that we are heading more and more towards an inter-mingling of dietary cultures and are heading towards what I would term a "world cuisine"
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> It's morning, and I'm not yet awake. I'm sure this post was incoherent.I know exactly what that is like :) but your post did however make lots of sense to me.
keep well Beardy
warm regards
bluedog
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