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Re: Drugs Supplements » BarbaraCat

Posted by ShelliR on September 12, 2002, at 0:01:23

In reply to Re: serenity and peacefulness » Iago Camboa, posted by BarbaraCat on September 11, 2002, at 18:43:59

Hi Barbaracat,

I was interested that you mentioned oxycontin for your MF pain. I haven’t been
diagnosed with MF, but have very very bad pain in my chest. It goes along with the awful
depression I’ve experienced in the last year and a half. First a psychiatrist put me on
oxycontin: he felt it was justified
since I had unsuccessfully tried so many Ads and supplements since Nardil had totally failed
after about twenty years. I had been taking very small bits of vicodin for a while, with no
need or desire to increase, but he thought I should take the oxy because it lasted double the time.
I became habituated very very quickly and went from a starting dose of 10mg to over 200mg in about six months. (I’ve heard that oxy is very "addictive", more so than other opiates, but I don’t know for sure). So I was wondering if you take the oxycontin on an as needed basis, or regularly. And if you’ve had to raise your dose significantly.

My current pain doctor was concerned that I got up to such high a dose of oxy, although
he didn’t imply that it was my fault. Twice, because of price of oxy and the high dose I had become habituated to, I’ve switched to methadone. It’s done well for me for several weeks and then I’m not clear what dose feels right and I’ve ended up becoming depressed and very very anxious. I am trying meth again; this time I stopped the oxycontin for a few weeks, then started with a small amount of methadone. So I was also wondering if you had ever tried methadone instead of the oxy, and if so, what your experience has been. It’s so much cheaper and I think I would feel more comfortable psychologically if I had to go up a lot to control the pain. (meanwhile I have also started marplan and am desperately hoping that it * will * kick in).

I read an interesting summary of a study comparing high dose methadone to low dose for methadone maintenance treatment. They came up with the conclusion that for some of the subjects, high doses (range 110-780mg; mean 211mg) raised their success rate ; (Lower doses are a mean of 65mg). The interesting thing for me was that besides being more successful in avoiding heroin, also the "response to psychopharmacological
treatment was enhanced by increased methadone in patients with ‘refractory’ psychiatric disorders." So, even though I’m not detoxing from illicit drugs, I wonder if there’s any connection to the fact that opiates work so well for me. AND I need to go up very high on the dose. Reading that summary made me less scared to go as high as I need to if it will keep me from killing myself and allow me to continue working. I just hope that it stays effective this time, at whatever dose I need to go up to.

I’m really glad you’ve hung around for a while on this board;
I always learn a lot from you, both about natural supplements and drugs, as
well as enjoying the small window into your life. Tomorrow, I will start taking norweigan cod liver oil--work my way up from 1T to 3T, after reading your posts on this thread. Thanks, I hope you are continuing to improve.

shelli


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