Posted by missliz on August 4, 2002, at 0:27:53
In reply to Re: Nardil - Cybercafe?, posted by denise528 on August 3, 2002, at 7:22:36
You need to understand that MAOIs are a lifestyle, and you need to be totally commited to this lifestyle. It's a diet, though it's not as restricted as it was. It's been re-researched and a lot of the retrictions were myths. The trickier part is the restrictions on other medications, especially psuedophedrine and dextromethoraphan. Eating out and going to parties requires both vigilence and diplomacy- you'll need to suddenly become allergic to dairy.
Of course if it works you will be going to parties for a change.
Nardil is the single best thing that ever happened to me. I loved Parnate, too. MAOIs are indicated for anergic depression and/ or social phobia. You sound anergic. Another current theory that early episodes of depression respond to SSRIs but later episodes require MAOIs, which are more agressive at rewiring your brain.
Agitation? My experience is that 75 percent of shrinks that use that word are actually missing a diagnoses of anxiety. They're taught to keep the patients 'compliant' on anti psychotics. When I was on Nardil I never needed an AD, but I used 5mg of Valium a day. I needed a lot less mood stabilizer, too. Something to be aware of- Parnate and selegiline(my current MAOI, and excellent!) metabolise into amphetamine and methamphetamine. I think Nardil does too, but I'm not positive. This is an excellent thing for the anergicly depressed but insomnia can be a real problem. You want to start a low dose and go up slowly.
Don't be fooled into taking a novel anti psychotic if you aren't psychotic. They're way over rated in my opinion and cause horrendous damage. Zyprexa causes rapid weight gain to the point of morbid obesity, and then there's heart disease, diabetes, joint damage, jerks on the street yelling insults, ect. There's a huge wave of lawsuits starting over this drug and Eli Lilly's shameless behavior in promoting it as the psych cure all. Does it help some people? Yes. Does it maim and injure others? Yes.
What these folks who've never been trained in psychiatry don't know is that Zyprexa and MAOIs are a disastrous combination; I don't remember what the famous psychopharmacologist said would happen, but only use Risperdol with MAOIs. Or the old drugs. Some people still like them better, and yes, the novel ADs can cause tardive dyskenisia.
I'd try the Nardil and see. You'll need to give it a good couple of months to work. Parnate is rougher stuff and you might want to save it for second. Nardil supposedly causes weight gain, too, but I felt so much better on it I took up sport (bike racing) and lost a lot of weight. I had a lot of fun, too, and got a masters degree. Worked for me.
Why don't you use the Google and search it? Poke around www.biopsychiatry.com and see what you think.Miss Liz
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