Posted by cybercafe on July 20, 2002, at 6:44:57
In reply to Re: Anyone here in Toronto? -- cybercafe, posted by Angel Girl on July 19, 2002, at 16:38:41
> I currently get my meds from my family doctor. I'm bipolar II as well. I have been through all the physical medical tests, had a complete workup. I just finished doing a whole battery of psych tests at the Centre of Addiction and Mental Health on Queen St.
Really??? I asked two docs for a "complete workup including thyroid and such things" and after I started reading medical books I found that all they tested was liver and kidney function!
But that was only drawing blood once, so if you feel like you're been through all the tests, you're probably well covered
btw -- i have to give you respect for getting the name right (i.e. not "the clarke") <big smile>
> I had originally been diagnosed with severe clinical depression by a pdoc who told me that I was untreatable and his only advice was for me to be put on extremely high dosages of ADs. He also admitted that he was definitely not qualified to treat me because of the multiple traumas in my childhood.
Hahaha... if you can't be treated, then i suppose that means no one is qualified to treat you
of course we both know that is completely untrue... there are so many therapies, combinational therapies, and augmentation therapies out there (and actually systematic methods of going about trying them)
http://www.cpa-apc.org/Publications/Clinical_Guidelines/depression/clinicalGuidelinesDepression.asp
though i guess in your case you'd be looking for a mood stabilizer first ...
.. i found i started cycling a bit on 300 mg of effexor, though it went away when i reduced to 225 mg...
though i was told it was norepenephrine that caused cycling, and norepenephrine doesn't occur until doses above 300 mg??(supposedly norepenephrine from MAOIs doesn't cause cycling.. don't know why that is.. i'm just happy i feel good)
> They have since told me that up to this point I have been incorrectly diagnosed and now I have
>
> BiPolar II
> Complex PTSD
> and as yet undetermined personality disorder (most likely BPD).... you can have both BPD and Bipolar? ... it's so hard to tell... i mean i wonder if i don't suffer from ADHD as well..
> Unfortunately the Ctr does not treat, they only do assessments. I left my x-therapist because she is a bitch and I have yet to find any therapist or psychatrist to accept me because my case is considered 'delicate' and they all have 3 to 4 month waiting lists.... i had one assessment there, and they recommended wellbutrin ... which i guess i could have had my family doc perscribe
> I get my meds from my family doctor, who no longer feels qualified to make any further changes to my psych meds. So I'm left taking 267.5mg of Effexor XR, which is not strong enough but yet I'm not handling the side effects well, I'm suicidal and top that off by knowing that I need to be on a mood stabilizer immediately and I'm left with nobody who will do anything.perhaps you should consider having yourself admitted to the CAMH on spadina and college... from my own personal experience with medication, it seems like you can get much much better and would probably be worth the trouble...
... i know people who were psychotic and suicidal and only had to stay for 7 days (i think they let you leave earlier if you are not psychotic or if you check in with them)... really i wish i could communicate to you how good it is possible to feel once you start getting even 50% better ... i was really surprised once i started feeling good
> I'm going to try out those links you provided on Monday and see where I get with them. Thanks for relaying them onto me.
i'm happy to help :)
> You might find the books you're looking for at the Centre of Addiction and Mental Health library. It is on the first floor or at the University of Toronto library.really? i had one doc tell me we could take a look at the library and another say he wasn't sure patients were allowed to...
thanks a lot for the info -- i'm definately going to give them a call now
> Good luck and thanks!
same to you :)
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