Posted by JohnX2 on January 8, 2002, at 21:29:16
In reply to Adderall safe if taken orally, posted by 3 Beer Effect on January 5, 2002, at 1:19:59
Prescriptions stims are safer than the street drugs,
but they still pound away on the dopamine neurons
and for people who are the slighest prone to bipolar
they can be quite neurotoxic.
The best ways to protect yourself to the 1st
order are antioxidants. The future is
nmda antagonists (just my opinion). I feel
it is a good idea to take anti-oxidants with
medications as they are neuroprotective in
general. We really don't know what these
meds are doing in our brain, so it is good to
have well understood anti-oxidants in moderate
doses cleaning up free radicals.Today's best protection:
1) anti-oxidants (prevent casdaded neurnal
degenerantation from free radicals):vitamin C,E
others: alpha-lipoic-acid,selegeline,
siberian ginseng, lots of others...2) the "future": NMDA antagonists
Akatinol (Memantine).
Acamprosate .. othersThese meds prevent toxic glutamate
transmission from causing the cell death in
the first place. They also have been shown
to help prevent the development of tolerance
and sensitizantion to psychostimulants and
opiods.-john
> Amphetamines are neurotoxic when they are manufactured illegally in some clandestine lab because they have toxic chemical byproducts still in them that haven't been filtered out. (probably the cause of the 'neuronal death' you heard about). Methamphetamines bought on the street are notoriously 'cut' or 'impure' with various substances including ephedrine, strychnine, etc to increase profits for the dealer at the expense of the health of the buyer. Plus the means of administration- snorting or smoking causes such a rapid uptake of the amphetamine that some brain damage can occur.
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> But with pharmaceutical grade stimulants such as Adderall, Dexedrine, Ritalin, or even Desoxyn, you have nothing to worry about. They are very safe medications when taken orally and at normal dosages.
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> The neuroprotective medicines he is probably talking about are the nootropics such as Piracetam or the more potent Aniracetam. Unfortunately, you cannot get a prescription for these, you have to buy them from an overseas mail order company- not only that but these nootropic smart drugs have no clear evidence that they make you smarter, or do anything else for that matter. Definitely not worth your time.
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> > What you write here scares the crap out of me as I am about to start Adderall in a few weeks. What are the neuroprotective drugs? Where can I find more information about this? I knew that heavy methamphetamine addicts suffered neuronal death, but I was told that in the doses I was going to be taking it, the Adderall was safe.
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