Posted by MB on December 28, 2001, at 0:44:40
In reply to Re: GABITRIL (tiagabine) new anti-anxiety drug????? » MB, posted by Mitch on December 27, 2001, at 22:48:33
> > Yeah, I figure once I get on a mood stabilizer that is both tolorable and effective, I'll have to go through the same process with the SSRIs (find one that's tolorable and effective), and then, later, do the same with the stimulants. I've tried all the SSRIs, and I liked Prozac the best (but I was also smoking weed and drinking on it, so I wouldn't have noticed anxiety/rage anyway. I found Serzone the most tolorable. No restlessness, no fatigue, no anxiety, and no anorgasmia. I haven't heard good results of treating OCD with Serzone. Have you?
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> You are kind of begging your own question there! :) You found Serzone the most tolerable and you must have noticed its effect on your OCD-you said "no anxiety".
> You may already have found your "SSRI". Serzone is a weak SSri-BTW. It just also happens to antagonize 5-HT2a receptors.
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> > I'll ask my doc about it. Also, do you think the Adderal will counteract the sexual side effects of the Prozac? Just wondered since sometimes Wellbutrin is used for this (both are dopaminergic).
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> It might. But, I have found that switching the med that is causing the problem is a superior solution to finding an additional med to "reverse" side-effects.
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> > Anyway, enough about me. How are you doing on your medications (was it Neurontin, Celexa, Klonopin and Wellbutrin)? The only time I could handle Wellbutrin without rage attacks was with a benzo. Probably the best combo I've been on for anxiety and depression was Xanax and Wellbutrin (did nothing for my OCD though).
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> That's my combo. I "like" Zoloft better than the Celexa and I have added back a little Zoloft lately. But the sertraline just shreds my guts (IBS probs). I have also heard that Zoloft can be effective for depersonalization/derealization and I get that sfx from other meds easily-that might explain why I respond to sertraline better than the other SSRi's. The Wellbutrin is there just because of seasonal depression. Things would be pretty black right now if it wasn't for the WB. But, I am getting headaches, elevated heart rate, blurry vision (worse than nortripytline), and it doesn't help with ADHD as well as the Zoloft+nortripytline combination (both very low dose). To be honest, I think after this seasonal spell starts diminishing (in 3-4 weeks)I will probably be back on Neurontin+Klonopin+Zoloft+Nortriptyline.
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> Mitch
Wellbutrin made my eyes blurry too...maybe anticholinergic action? I guess when I said "no anxiety" with the Serzone, I should have said "no increased anxiety," which is still really important. I'll talk to the doc before it's time to start the SSRI and see what he says. So you take the Wellbutrin for seasonal depression? Interesting. I remember that in the early nineties, the consensus was that SAD had something to do with the short days affecting seratonin production (or something like that) and that SSRIs were supposed to be the best for that. Has the consensus changed? I guess it just goes to show that what *works* is more important than whatever psychobiological theory is popular at the time.That's great that the Neurontin works for you. I took it for restless leg syndrom and found no side effect (but no wanted effect either).
Oh wait, maybe I missed something. Does your seasonal depression have to do with the stress of the holidays or because of the limited daylight?
MB
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