Posted by kregpark@yahoo.com on October 20, 2001, at 16:43:48
In reply to Re: bye, bye dysthymia, follow up, posted by JohnX on October 20, 2001, at 11:38:51
Thank John for the update!
I am following this. BTW, I respond similarly to Serzone, like beer. I generally don't care for beer (even before meds) - but I have found that taking Wellbutrin first allows me enjoy beer! Kind of trivial and off topic but just wanted to throw that in... :)
Anyway, good luck guy!
kregpark
> Follow up....
>
> Well, the total remission lasted for 2-3 days
> which is pretty good actually if you have follow
> any of my previous posts. Then I started to get
> a little emotional numbing (poop-out) and pain in
> my face consistent with my prior responses to
> Wellbutrin (and Zoloft).
>
> So, I dropped the Wellbutrin dose to a less
> than therapeutic range (to continue to help with
> drowsiness without interefering with the facial
> pain and numbing).
>
> The Zyprexa is helping, I haven't had any negative
> thoughts for 1 week, which is really good, and
> without the Wellbutrin or the lower dose of it.
> The Zyprexa is ridding me of my pain syndrome
> and relieving anxiety, and is helping with my
> motivation (or maybe that is the now tolerable
> low dose wellbutrin).
>
> My doctor wants me to stay on the Zyprexa even
> though I am a bit drowsy and focus on tapering
> off the Klonopin (which may help improve my mood
> too). He poo-pooed at the idea of adding a low
> dose of Zoloft instead of Wellbutrin (which
> I will admit I added on the sly). I wanted to
> ask about adding some Adderall, but he seems
> to be anti-adderall for any bipolar.
> Anyways he wants me to focus on the klonopin
> tapering 1st, which I agree is a good idea given
> that I can.
>
> So, its getting better. I'll remain optimistic.
> I have found a consistent trend of meds that
> help/worsen my pain and depression, and will
> hang in there.
>
> Interestingly the Zyprexa helps with the pain
> similar to the Serzone, and it makes me a bit
> drowsy. But it doesn't have the cognitive dulling
> effect of Serzone. For example, I may feel drowsy
> like I had a long day of work on Zyprexa, but
> on Serzone I always felt like I had a
> long day of work and 3 happy hour beers. ;)
>
> Hanging in there.
>
> Thanks for all your kind words.
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Regards,
> -john
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Well, I've had another what I would call "an awakening".
> > It reminds me of the movie "Awakenings".
> > I feel like a hand from above has yanked me from point
> > A (crapper) to point B (where the rest fo the world
> > lived. I have had a breakout from dysthymia/anhedonia
> > that includes *recapturing my emtions*. I feel connected to
> > the world again! The last time this happened
> > was 2.5 years ago (on St. John's Wort) and it
> > lasted only 3 days.
> >
> > After 2.5 years of struggling, and a huge list
> > of medications, misdiagnosis, therapy, etc. and severe
> > phsyical pain on top of the mood problems,
> > I seemed to have hit the jackpot. I really hope this
> > doesn't fade. My core diagnosis is ptsd with bpii.
> > Anyways, I have had spurts of manic europhoria during
> > this 2.5 year time span, but never had a feeling of
> > "well-being" and being connected to the world.
> >
> > I hope this party lasts. I was about ready to give
> > up. I'm still pessimistic.
> >
> > Anyways, here's what is working:
> >
> > - Lamictal 150 mg/day
> > - Wellbutrin 300 mg/day
> > - Zyprexa 5 mg/day
> > - Klonopin 4 mg/day
> >
> > Wish me luck; I hope this doesn't slip out
> > of my hands. Adding in the Wellbutrin kicked
> > things into action. Prior to this I had either
> > non-respnse to wellbutrin or short lived mania.
> > I tried adding it to the Lamictal alone (before
> > zyprexa) and it made my physical pain worse.
> > When I took Zyprexa, I found out that the Wellbutrin
> > no longer caused pain in my face, so I stayed
> > on it and WHAMO!
> >
> > Anyways, thanks for everyone's support especially
> > AndrewB who took the time to personally communicate
> > with me in a compasionate way that helped me feel
> > much more optimistic and less misunderstood (not
> > to mention the wealth of information).
> >
> > PS. AndrewB suggested Zyprexa 1st, but I went other routes.
> > Damn. He was right on the money. But he didn't think
> > Wellbutrin would ever work, which is at this very
> > mokent. ;)
> >
> > Thanks for all the support and
> > good luck to everybody (including me)
> >
> > -John
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