Posted by shelliR on September 25, 2001, at 22:38:11
In reply to Re: TANKING ON BUPE - help » Zo, posted by Zo on September 23, 2001, at 17:11:18
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> Shelli - You're thinking of trying bupe, aren't you?
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> The funny thing is, Vicodin pooped out the same way, so it's something with me and opiates. . .I guess. Will post more as I find out more; meanwhile, if you learn anything. . .Took another Vicodin last night, neatly stopped abrupt mood downswing.
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> Zo
Hi Zo.
Sorry, missed this post (I wasn't on the envelope :-) ) I'm glad you're feeling better.You say vicodin pooped out the same way as bupe, but your description of what happened on the bupe didn't sound like poop-out. Sounded more like a crash . Did that happen on the vicodin in the same way?
I do think about trying bupe because I have developed a tolerance to oxycontin and have had to go up twice. Also, it does give me a sort of high, especially right after it kicks in and a few hours later, again when it reaches its peak (I guess when another layer of the long-release kicks in), I don't mind a little high in the evening (sort of like a glass of wine), but I don't like it during the day.
It seems like when you started bupe, you did feel a high. I don't know if you remember. The rap on bupe is that it does not cause any drug high. Would you agree? It might be hard to remember after the awful chaos of your crash. I'm trying to determine whether it is worth pressing my pdoc into letting me try bupe so I can compare it to oxycontin. To see if it would help my depression without the high and without developing a tolerance. My pdoc thinks that the likelihood is just as great that tolerance would develop with bupe, and it would have greater side effects.
As far as trying oxycontin over vicodin, they feel about the same but it's nice that oxy lasts for so long (up to 12 hours, for me about 8 and I start dipping). When I take my second dose there is some overlap, it is late afternoon, and it is a nice time for a high. Also, it has no tylenol in it which is better (for the liver?), but I'm not sure that at the doses we're talking about, that really is a big deal. The bad deal about oxy is the lowest dose is 10mg. So I was taking less than 5mg of vicodin and had to start on 10mg of oxycontin. And each increase has to be 10mg, because you can't split the tablets (they're layered for the time release). So I got up so much faster than I would have liked. Like you can't chew off a sliver here and there; it can absolutely be dangerous because you might get the action of the long release all at once. That's why it's such a good drug to abuse; if you crush it, then shoot or inhale it, you're getting the whole dose at the same time, and more.
Anyway, I not still not convinced that opiates are the way to go for me, but I am interested in buprenorphine. So if you can remember if you felt just good, or good with a bit of high, I'd appreciate the info.
Shelli
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