Posted by grapebubblegum on June 16, 2001, at 11:32:15
In reply to Re: Hegelian logic and benzos » Daveman, posted by Cam W. on June 16, 2001, at 0:18:17
You all overwhelm me with your smartness.
Cam: I am a lousy housekeeper. It amazes me that women could get Rx's to do housekeeping faster way back when, and those of us who need fractions of the lowest dose of clonazepem to survive get rolled eyes from jaded health care professionals. Anyway, maybe I finally know why I can't clean house worth a darn. Did they actually have any reason given for the Rx's? Did docs diagnose needs for women to get Rx's very easily back them? I'm assuming they felt they had a good psychiatric reason to prescribe "mothers little helpers."
Elizabeth: I missed it if you stated this before, but are you a physician or some sort of professional other than a plain old layperson like myself? I'm just curious since you seem to know your shizzit.
Whoever mentioned this: (can't remember who - can't remember,it's that klonopin, right? arggghhhh!) (that was a joke)
My pdoc was probably unfairly selectively and even misquoted by me. She did say that clonazepam is excellent for the purposes for which I am using it and she did say that if I am taking it, it is preferable to take it round the clock rather than "as needed," although taking it as needed is most definitely preferable to not taking it at all should a crisis arise as she would prefer to see me go to sleep rather than go to E.R. if things get that bad on any particular night.
She did say also that she has seen a huge range of responses to clonazepam with some people needing very little and some needing a lot in terms of responsiveness and tolerance.
I was joking when I said, "the amount needed to derail a P.A. would kill me." What I mean was that I have taken I think... 1.5 mg over the course of a bad evening and STILL stumbled into the E.R., and while I could hardly stand, walk or talk, the P.A. was still raging within my brain. It was like a fight between my brain and my body. One particular occasion I remember included a nurse giving me a shot of Ativan in my posterior and I could feel the Ativan pulling me down and my brain pulling me back up, like a battle. It's like my P.A. kept coming back up for air, gasping to say alive, and as I lapsed into unconciousness, the final image in conscious brain was a vague vision of vicious dog with bared teeth, then I went out. I'm not afraid of dogs, per se...I'm sure it was just a general "anxiety" picture pulled at random from that card catalog at the back of my brain.
But my point was.... She was not overjoyed to hear that the E.R. docs gave me Ativan and sent me home with a bottlefull the next day... I took one dose as directed and walked around and literally could not remember what I did that day. I guess that's why she does not favor Ativan except maybe at the time the E.R. docs did what was best for that situation.
She does keep reminding me that clonazepam can worsen depression. I don't know what to make of that. I don't think I am a classically depressed person. At one time she had me on clorazepate (tranxene) and she felt it was not good enough and that is when she switched me to clonazepam which I believe is her favorite benzo (she admits it does a good job and that is why she prescribes it.)
As for valium, I was given that once during a medical procedure and it made me sleepy but did not do a good job of alleviating the panic attack that ensued from the pain of the procedure. It was bad: like being too knocked out to move or speak but panicking inside. She was also not pleased to hear that I was given IV valium for a procedure that is normally done under general anesthesia. Incidentally, I saw on the b.p. monitor that my b.p. was 80/40 or less.
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