Posted by missliz on April 10, 2001, at 23:47:18
In reply to Re: Euphoria-Doug and Fred, posted by KarenB on April 9, 2001, at 18:56:38
> > Well said Doug. So long as the euphoria is socially responsible I'm all in favour of it. Sometimes even if it isn't. Sort of like a time out from our suffering. Don't we deserve it occasionally?
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> Hi Guys,
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> I reread my post and it sounds as if I too am opposed to euphoria. I am not. As a matter of fact, my dream is to live in a state of controlled, euphoric hypomania. Wouldn't that be nice?
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> What I am opposed to, because I think it is dangerous, is addiction - the type that demands you take more and more to get to the same euphoric state and then starts stealing away any control you do have. You can never get back that initial, pleasant euphoria you first experienced. You then find yourself using several different docs to get what you need, because the amount you need would raise some eyebrows. Can you tell I've been there? Opiates are know for this kind of mess.
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> A time out from suffering is not a bad thing...as long as in staying there you don't get hurt.
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> KarenEuphoria is great- but why drug induced euphoria when it only leads to long term disaster? Opiates are selfish drugs whose users just live for the next dose then sit in the corner and nod. This isn't an anti depressent effect, just another facet of illness. You want euphoria?
Run. Ride your bike. Surf. Climb a mountain, then run down the trails hollering. Be a sappy Nike ad 'cause like I said in my earlier post those who sweat have heads full of endorphins and those who go on adventures have something interesting to talk about. Addicts are bores.
If you opiate desperate types had done your research a little more thoroughly you'd find that these drugs just make depression worse in the long run. They play hell with brain chemistry and further destabilize it, making a bigger and bigger mess in there.
I suspect that you all really need psychotherapy to find out why you need to anesthetize yourselves. Opiates aren't about feeling better. They're about feeling nothing at all.
You want euphoria? Clean up, straighten out, find out what sober sex is. Thats euphoric.
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