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Re: Scott

Posted by Janice1 on November 22, 2000, at 21:24:15

In reply to Re: Scott, posted by SLS on November 20, 2000, at 20:39:13

> Hi Scott,
>
> I didn't know that anxiety was associated with ovulation. How do you experience this anxiety? How long does it last? Is it common? What do you do about it, if anything?

I was also told once by a doctor that anxiety wasn't associated with ovulation. I'm not sure if they know differently now, but I experienced this monthly for 1-3 days (varying in intensity). The anxiety was over nothing usually - just building mountains out of moldhills, and staying up all night doing it. The only way i got rid of it was to go on the birth control pill which prevents a woman from ovulating.
>
> > One of my rapid cycling cycles has developed and revolves around my menstral cycle - with a severe depression right after menses
>
> Isn't this unusual? I am not clear on precisely what the word "menses" means. Does it refer to the onset of menstrual flow (first day) or the entire period?

I'm not certain if I used the word correctly either. The depression would usually start on the fifth day after the beginning of my period. And the hypomania would begin right after ovulation, right after experiencing 2 to 3 sleepless nights worrying about silly things.
>
> A lady friend of mine who suffers with a soft bipolar type depression has done well on a combination of Effexor and Wellbutrin. Unfortunately, she still suffers a significant premenstrual depression. In addition, her cycle is irregular. I wonder if there is such a thing as a desychronization between estrogen and progesterone secretions. Her luteal phase is probably truncated.

You could put it this way, if her cycle wasn't irregular, I highly doubt she'd have PMS problems.
>
> I have urged her for over a year to speak to one of her doctors about the use of sex hormone therapy for her PMS. It is significant enough for her to miss days at work. She is currently taking birth-control pills, but I don't know what the formulation is. Is the "mini-pill" still popular? There may not be enough estrogen in the preparation she is using.
>
> *** Question: What formulation of birth control pill is best suited for minimizing premenstrual mood fluctuations?

I really don't know Scott. I use Cyclen birth control (if that means anything). It's is a common pill and could be the mini-pill you are talking about. I think she should experiment with some other birth control pills under a doctor's supervision - Or get a customized birth control pill.
>
> Gosh, what you pretty little girls have to go through to make life worth living for us clueless little boys.

my boyfriend was not clueless about this because I was certainly not pretty around that time of month :+)
>
> Janice, I hope you are feeling as well as you sound.
>
I am Scott. Really great, there is hope. I'm finally just got relief a few months ago at 34 and have been suffering from this garbage since I was 12.

> I am doing significantly better than I was over the summer. I have recently added Zyprexa to my treatment regime. I am encouraged. But then again, I am so easily encouraged despite my history. I haven't figured out why.
>
I am very happy for your Scott. Maybe you are an optimistic depressed person Scott. As funny as the term sounds, I'm sure it happens.

> Any input you could provide regarding PMS and hormone therapy would be helpful.
>
I really don't see how anything but hormones could really help. Exercise helps me a bit, but by no means is anywhere near the answer for me. I have heard quitting sugar can help significantly, and there is a part of me that believes this - maybe because it's the only thing i haven't tried.

Take care of yourself Scott,
your friend, Janice

There seems to be so much they don't know about how hormones interact with mental illnesses.


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