Posted by dj on July 26, 2000, at 22:07:51
In reply to Re: Locale - Re: YoYo, janice and dj, posted by Janice on July 26, 2000, at 19:39:26
> French people are latin, not celtic. I don't believe they are related dj. you have a good >memory, Janice
I do have a very good memory for things I find of interest, Janice, and other things that I don't find interesting tax my resources - like the IT industry ; ). I forgot to mention your sojurn in Vancouver, this time last year or so, didn't I?I don't know about the petty criminal elements in your background but here's a bit of Celtic his and her-stories for ya:
Who were the Celts and where did they originate?
According to Rannie
Gillis author of "Travels in the Celtic World", "There is very little
factual knowledge of these barbarians, until we reach the time of the early
Greek and Roman historians. To these learned men, a barbarian was simply any
person who lived outside the fringes of the Greek or Roman world. < Just as
the Irish who lived outside the Anglo-dominated Pale enclave of Dublin, were
described as being: "beyond the Pale" >...."Aristotle < who was a didactic idiot and the source of many of today's
worlds ill-informed practices ie. - see "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle
Maintenance" - Robert Pirsig > was not too impressed with the Celts he came
into contact with, and he referred to them as 'savages' < not unlike those
who conquered America and thier views of the indigenous peoples - ignorance
is bliss >...The Greek historian, Strabo, commented that: "The whole race is
madly fond of war, high-spirited and quick to battle. < times haven't changed
; ) >, but otherwise straightforward and not of evil character...The great
Roman historian, Diodourus Siculus, left us a meticulous description of the
Celts who lived in modern day France. "...They are exceedingly fond of wine,
and drink it greedily < ditto ; ) >...An argument can lead to a fight, often
to the death...they are quick of mind with good natural ability for
learning.""It was however, their ferocious manner and their prowess in battle that
spread fear throughout the continent. They were virtually unstoppable in
combat. With no apparent fear of death, they took no prisoners and would
kill themselves rather than face the ignominy of capture. To quote Strabo
once again: "When the armies are drawn up in battle array they are likely to
advance before the battle line and to challenge the bravest of their
opponents to single combat. When someone accepts their challenge to battle,
they loudly recite the deeds of valour of their ancestors and proclaim their
own glorious qualities, at the same time abusing and making little of their
opponents.""Many barbaric tribes, in addition to the Celts, have earned their place in
the history of western Europe. In relation to the ancient Greco-Roman world,
we have the Scythians in the east, the Iberians in the west, and the Germans
and Celts in the north and the centre. All of these tribes are Indo-European
in origin.The expanding Greek and Roman empires later absorbed all these tribes.
Because of their geographical location, the Celts would form an integral
part of the Roman Empire and play a most important role in the evolution of
modern-day France. They would play a fundamental role in laying the
foundations of modern-day Europe...The name 'Celt' probably refers to a
collection of related tribes that inhabited a region of Central Europe
before the advent of the Greek and Roman empires...the Celtic languages were
very closely related to the languages of the Indian sub-continent, as well
as such other diverse tongues as Iranian and Armenian. This would seem to
indicate a common origin in central Eurasia.Prehistoric archeaology indicates that sometime around 1500 B.C. the
Celts were firmly entrenched in the centre of Europe, where Czechslovkaia is
today."For more you can do your own reading and research. One last quote from
Gillis: "For a period of four hundred years, from around 600 to 200 B.C.,
they were the most powerful people in the Western world."Sante,
dj
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