Posted by Phillip Marx on December 26, 1999, at 2:33:04
In reply to Re: Dr Jensen protocol : Worked for me, posted by Phillip Marx on December 26, 1999, at 2:24:06
Interview by the Doctor is online:
http://www.concernedcounseling.com/ccijournal/conference/jensendepression.htm
pm> The web site is not his highest priority, his brother is doing it for him until he has time to divert his attention from his patients and book.
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> I have been with him for two years and he got me off disability and gave me back a life after HMO types merely ran me through the traditional cheapest cost diagnosis decision tree that perpetuates revenue patient status. He is working hard on the next edition of his book, not just a book, but a text that several medical schools are using and will be using the next ready edition of. He takes patients who have been to 50-100 doctors and gets 30-60 percent much better relief in the first two weeks, some do take longer and there are about 30% who still have no medicines invented for them yet. Since he is systematic, he can do much of it over the phone, I hear blood tests are rare, just failed medicine histories help him best. The short tests only run a screen through some 10 main brain chemical systems so that he knows how many he is trying to fix. EVERYONE with TWO imbalances will be unimproved with treatments for single conditions!
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> Phillip Marx
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> > All the same, he does one thing that very few doctors think is even reasonable to do -- his approach tries to examine mental disorders in a systemic way. Sure, "medical science" can describe what each of these individual systems are supposedly responsible for in terms of function, but how much gets beyond the idea of first-order effects? The standard protocol remains change one variable, wait until that change produces some sort of equilibrium, then evaluate that state to see if the protocol should be continued or changed. With our lack of precise understanding of how these neurochemical changes map onto behavior, this protocol really is scientifically bankrupt. It assumes that any change in behavior is solely determined by the change in protocol, and cannot account for any behavior that is determined or influenced by a variety of systems in the brain -- some of which may be aided by the change, some ignored, and others hampered.
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> > It's this approach that leaves folks like me waiting for years to find the right combination of medicines. I hear people talk about meds pooping out after five years -- I've been on them more than 2.5 years and I still haven't found a combination that has the potential to poop out at some time in the future.
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> > my two cents,
> > Bob
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