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Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by beckett2 on February 15, 2021, at 14:38:12

In reply to The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 1:10:05

Haha.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 17:40:20

In reply to The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 1:10:05

Murdoch owns 70% of the media here, and most of the rest is quite right wing, even the ABC is becoming so. The exceptions are The Guardian, and Schwartz Media.....The Monthly, The Saturday Paper and the Quarterly Essay.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by beckett2 on February 15, 2021, at 17:44:58

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 17:40:20

> Murdoch owns 70% of the media here, and most of the rest is quite right wing, even the ABC is becoming so. The exceptions are The Guardian, and Schwartz Media.....The Monthly, The Saturday Paper and the Quarterly Essay.

70%!I wonder what percentage of the airwaves, etc he owns here. So what's happening there?

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 18:05:38

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by beckett2 on February 15, 2021, at 17:44:58

We have the most corrupt federal government in our history.

This deals with the retreat into fantasy with luminous simplicity.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/02/beware-the-beginning-of-unreason/

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 18:33:39

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 18:05:38

There's this fear that hangs over us now.

Things were never great for everyone, but if you were white in the imperial centres it was pretty good from the 50s onwards. A fairly clear trajectory since Eisenhower, each Republican president more feral than the one before, with the exception of GHW Bush.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by beckett2 on February 15, 2021, at 18:56:43

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on February 15, 2021, at 18:33:39

This fear hangs over Australia as well? I've been surprised by the support for trvmp from down under. Push back hard as you can. Educate, educate, educate. I'm fairly positive we will enter some sort of fascist government (here) because much of the population supports it. Unless Biden really does some good + gets very lucky. Which is possible. And the youth are energized.

We're peas in a pod w the UK. Watching the latest Adam Curtis documentary. He's very much about the living dead, ie denied history.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on February 16, 2021, at 19:17:24

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by beckett2 on February 15, 2021, at 18:56:43

Right. I've seen some new Adam Curtis thing on youtube. I've always enjoyed his stuff.

The return of the repressed (that is the phrase, isn't it?) is the same here. Nothing acknowledged or dealt with and so it recurs.

Idiot wind
Blowing like a circle around my skull
From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on February 16, 2021, at 19:21:02

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on February 16, 2021, at 19:17:24

About 10 years ago we stayed in Da Lat in the Southern Highlands of Vietnam. This Australian preferred to live there, and she died there years later. I said something about Australia during the afternoon drink time. She was scornful. 'Oh, Australia! It's fascist.'

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 13, 2021, at 18:43:17

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on February 16, 2021, at 19:21:02

They know no bounds in deeds of wickedness; they judge not with justice the cause of the fatherless, the rights of the needy. Shall I not punish them for these things, says the Lord, and shall I not avenge myself on a nation such as this? An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes? (Jeremiah 5:28-31)

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on March 14, 2021, at 23:16:52

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 13, 2021, at 18:43:17

I read what seems like a good election result for WA. True?

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 0:33:51

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise sigismund, posted by beckett2 on March 14, 2021, at 23:16:52

There are only 2 or 3 Liberals left? And a couple more Nationals.

Have you been reading about Christian Porter, our AG? Quite large demonstrations, around 1,000 in our little town. My wife was reminded by someone on Facebook by a photo of her (so young and beautiful) of 50 years ago at a rally against exactly the same thing. It has been asserted that 4% of the swing against the Liberals was anger at the Federal Government over the endless list of their (maybe the word is) malfeasance. And resentment of their stupid ideas of superiority.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by beckett2 on March 15, 2021, at 0:36:36

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 0:33:51

Is that the assault case? I haven't followed it, but had some unpleasant reactions to a photo of the fellow. (I could be mixing the names up?)

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 20:56:10

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by beckett2 on March 15, 2021, at 0:36:36

Social media, esp Twitter and reddit and (some independent press like Crikey) are on fire in the comments sections. This has been building for decades. I understand that the comments people are not the majority, but this is extraordinary.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 21:04:03

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 20:56:10

Maybe 50,000 people all up marched yesterday?

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 21:06:20

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 21:04:03

The members of the government are either corrupt, hopeless or fascist. They even use Nazi language. No Federal election this year now.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 21:14:25

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 21:06:20

Headlines like these, it's glorious.....

How goods Australia! We dont shoot our protesters not even female ones
It's a very low bar that Prime Minister Scott Morrison sets for Australian society. And it just keeps on going lower.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise sigismund

Posted by beckett2 on March 18, 2021, at 12:56:11

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 21:06:20

> The members of the government are either corrupt, hopeless or fascist. They even use Nazi language. No Federal election this year now.

What do you mean? An election has been canceled? Surely I am incorrect.

What sections of reddit is this taking place?

(somewhat alarmed now)

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by beckett2 on March 18, 2021, at 13:19:59

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 15, 2021, at 21:06:20

> The members of the government are either corrupt, hopeless or fascist. They even use Nazi language. No Federal election this year now.

Ok, so I have it wrong. So what is happening?

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 18, 2021, at 20:04:08

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise sigismund, posted by beckett2 on March 18, 2021, at 12:56:11

Our elections are most often at the discretion of the PM, certainly federally. Things looked hopeful for the Liberals until all this.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 18, 2021, at 20:17:05

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by beckett2 on March 18, 2021, at 13:19:59

It was this perfect storm.

A Liberal staffer had been raped and the issue not dealt with. Then it was handled badly. Scottie was reminded by his wife that this woman could have been his daughter, but instead of being grateful many Australians became angry. Then (or before) there was the 4 Corners program on the Canberra Bubble. Christian Porter, AG, became angry because his background shown there was consistent with what next came out: accusation of anal rape 30 years ago with suicide of victim last year. Seems to have been a tradition at that school. They are bred to hold themselves to the highest standards of probity. And then it was International Women's Day. That was after Porter's press conference where his performance was much better than Brett Kavanaugh's (sp?)

This is after a series of scandals over the history of this government involving heaps of money and lots of punching down on the poorest. Dutton annoyed NZ be sending offenders back there and calling it 'taking out the trash'. He is Murdoch's pick.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 18, 2021, at 22:40:04

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 18, 2021, at 20:17:05

It goes a lot further than women and men, eg indigenous boys in prison and general violence against the defenceless.

This is reasonably good.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/apr/09/about-the-boys-tim-winton-on-how-toxic-masculinity-is-shackling-men-to-misogyny

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 23, 2021, at 22:12:10

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 18, 2021, at 22:40:04

Lachlan Murdoch has returned and will monitor the situation.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on March 24, 2021, at 2:07:18

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 23, 2021, at 22:12:10

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/24/i-gave-a-press-conference-about-women-just-the-other-day-what-more-leadership-do-these-ghouls-want

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by alexandra_k on April 7, 2021, at 19:05:32

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by sigismund on March 24, 2021, at 2:07:18

NZ pretended to be upset. Because now the deported are our problem.

Our prisons are largely populated by young Maori who are taking the rap for gang elders as part of their initiation into gangs. That is to say our prisons are largely populated by boys who are relatively easy to handle / compliant / fun to abuse re: prison management.

But Australia is sending back hardened criminals the likes of which our prison management... Is struggling to manage. These hardened criminals have access to more serious drugs and guns networks...

I don't know how many Australians are in NZ prisons. I think we are still in 'it is costly to punish and so we won't' mindset. That is to say I don't think we have imprisoned people for their crimes, for the most part, we don't do that. We just go for the low-hanging fruit for the most part.

The woman who bashed a sexual offender with a hammer to prevent his reoffending because the Government refused to prosecute him / put him safely away to prevent his reoffending and to prevent a member of the public needing to take things into their own hands.

People like that.

We need to be less racist and imprison some white collar (also white) criminals. The ones who have the power to arrange for change for the good from the inside. Literally. Put the Ombudsman into the prisons he's said there's nothing wrong with. Let's see how he feels about it, then.

New Zealand trains Australians to be Medical Doctors because New Zealand regards Australians to be local (eligible for NZ Government studnet loans) when New Zealanders are not eligible for Australian HECS Government loans to study Medicine in Australia. The New Zealand Government chooses to allow that. Why? Why does the New Zealand Government choose to treat New Zealanders as second class or third class Australians?

The Australians that Australia wouldn't train. Sent here to sneak in the backdoor. The kids of the elite officials since they can't send them to UQ anymore...

So they send them to Dunedin as the fastest route back.

 

Re: The endless litany of self praise

Posted by sigismund on April 7, 2021, at 23:18:49

In reply to Re: The endless litany of self praise, posted by alexandra_k on April 7, 2021, at 19:05:32

One of our latest NZ deportees was 16, I read.

You still have our Brendan Tarrant. Grew up near here. I saved The Great Replacement but having grasped the argument, as it were........

Given a choice between Dunedin and UQ I'd go with Dunedin. Brisbane is too bloody hot in summer.


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