Psycho-Babble Faith Thread 681306

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Sorry (nm)

Posted by muffled on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:33

In reply to Let's not do this to ourselves/one another, posted by Jost on August 29, 2006, at 11:17:56

 

Re: So, what religion of people did kill Christ ...

Posted by Tabitha on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:33

In reply to So, what religion of people did kill Christ ..., posted by muffled on August 28, 2006, at 23:19:46

Yeah, I never understood that argument, that thinking Jews killed Christ creates anti-Semitism. I can't imagine anybody thinks about the death of Christ like, dang, if only Christ had lived to a ripe old age, things would be so much better. I'd think Christians would be almost grateful to anyone who contributed to the event that launched their faith.

 

Re: But it doesn't work that way. Tabitha

Posted by AuntieMel on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Re: So, what religion of people did kill Christ ..., posted by Tabitha on August 29, 2006, at 12:14:44

For hundreds of years people used that as an excuse for pogroms, smashing, hurting others.

Every year around Easter the preachers would get the throngs riled up.

What you said is logical, but logic doesn't apply for all things...

 

Re: It can be a good thing muffled

Posted by AuntieMel on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Re: So, what religion of people did kill Christ .., posted by muffled on August 29, 2006, at 11:06:12

Many people get a lot of solice in religion. That can never be bad.

Sometimes I'm envious.

 

Solace

Posted by verne on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Re: It can be a good thing muffled, posted by AuntieMel on August 29, 2006, at 13:06:10

I draw comfort from Mel Gibson's DUI sermon and the knowledge that he "owns Malibu". He's the king.

Verne

 

Actually, it is inaccurate anyway.

Posted by madeline on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to So, what religion of people did kill Christ ..., posted by muffled on August 28, 2006, at 23:19:46

The person or persons that killed christ are technically the ones that nailed him to the cross, and they were most likely roman.

So, not to upset any romans, I will just leave it at that.

 

Maybe He died of a broken heart

Posted by crazy teresa on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Actually, it is inaccurate anyway., posted by madeline on August 29, 2006, at 15:09:37

and we all killed Him.

 

Lou's response to aspects of this thread

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Actually, it is inaccurate anyway., posted by madeline on August 29, 2006, at 15:09:37

Friends,
If you would like to see what the Anti-Defamation League has to say concerning some aspects of this thread, you could email me and I will give you a URL .
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net

 

Would you babblemail it to me, please? Lou Pilder

Posted by Racer on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of this thread, posted by Lou Pilder on August 29, 2006, at 16:33:54

> Friends,
> If you would like to see what the Anti-Defamation League has to say concerning some aspects of this thread, you could email me and I will give you a URL .
> Lou
> lpilder_1188@fuse.net

And if Lou won't, will someone who emails him send it to me, via babblemail, please?

Thank you.

 

Is this the place?

Posted by SLS on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of this thread, posted by Lou Pilder on August 29, 2006, at 16:33:54

I have an extraordinarily pithy answer too, but what does this have to do with PB Administration?


- Scott

 

Re: Is this the place? NO!

Posted by Gabbi~G~ on August 29, 2006, at 21:13:34

In reply to Is this the place?, posted by SLS on August 29, 2006, at 17:58:47


Please the *faith board*

and Please don't accuse the entire world of killing Christ :O
I know I'm not the only one who feels incredibly frustrated, and angry,(probably because of the civility guidelines :~{ when hit with statements such as some of the above.

 

I think It was Religion that killed him

Posted by Bobby on August 29, 2006, at 21:50:32

In reply to So, what religion of people did kill Christ ..., posted by muffled on August 28, 2006, at 23:19:46

nobody wants to take the blame

 

Re: I think It was Religion that killed him Bobby

Posted by Gabbi~G~ on August 29, 2006, at 22:12:28

In reply to I think It was Religion that killed him, posted by Bobby on August 29, 2006, at 21:50:32

Ah Bobby..
If I'd never known you before, you would have won me over with that subject heading - whether you are being facetious or not.

I love Jesus,
I really really do.

I think he was the coolest.
Whether he was a symbol or embodied (don't have an opinion on that, and it matters not a whit about how I feel about "him" though I know others feel the human aspect is crucially important.

It's just 99% of religion I despise.


 

Re: But it doesn't work that way. AuntieMel

Posted by Tabitha on August 29, 2006, at 23:26:38

In reply to Re: But it doesn't work that way. Tabitha, posted by AuntieMel on August 29, 2006, at 13:04:56

> For hundreds of years people used that as an excuse for pogroms, smashing, hurting others.
>

Oh, I didn't mean to refute history. I just don't understand how the notion is such a source of anger.

 

Re: But it doesn't work that way.

Posted by Declan on August 30, 2006, at 1:53:56

In reply to Re: But it doesn't work that way. AuntieMel, posted by Tabitha on August 29, 2006, at 23:26:38

Why it's such a source of anger?
Because we are so easily made angry?
Because we are so angry already?
Or because we are so stupid?

 

Re: But it doesn't work that way.

Posted by Declan on August 30, 2006, at 1:57:53

In reply to Re: But it doesn't work that way., posted by Declan on August 30, 2006, at 1:53:56

Now I have to rephrase that. I've called us all stupid.
No offence meant, it's nothing personal, we can't help it, and most of us are very nice, what would you expect anyway, who am I to talk, and so on.

 

Lou's response to aspects of this thread

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2006, at 5:16:58

In reply to Re: But it doesn't work that way. AuntieMel, posted by Tabitha on August 29, 2006, at 23:26:38

Friends,
It is written,[...I..don't understand...such a source...].
I have an extensive body of research that goes to the answering of the question above.
If anyone is interested in having this infomation, I like to email concerning this.
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net

 

Muffled had it right.

Posted by SLS on August 30, 2006, at 7:53:11

In reply to Re: But it doesn't work that way., posted by Declan on August 30, 2006, at 1:53:56

> ...thats what was SUPPOSED to happen.

I guess everyone played their roles perfectly, regardless of which parts they were assigned. How can anyone find fault with any of the players cast in the devine script?

Just one perspective.


- Scott

 

Re: Muffled had it right.

Posted by Phillipa on August 30, 2006, at 19:06:38

In reply to Muffled had it right., posted by SLS on August 30, 2006, at 7:53:11

Mine is just interrpretation. How many times has this been interpreted over the centuries? I myself tend to be spiritual. That's just me. I respect all religions. And who knows what the real truth is? I don't. I haven't been to Heaven. Love Phillipa

 

Guidance Lou Pilder

Posted by verne on August 31, 2006, at 7:12:38

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of this thread, posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2006, at 5:16:58

This is a complicated problem. Let us all seek guidance from Mel Gibson. I think his "I own Malibu" speech answers all you questions. Mel knows.

 

Re: Guidance verne

Posted by Declan on August 31, 2006, at 14:33:50

In reply to Guidance Lou Pilder, posted by verne on August 31, 2006, at 7:12:38

I want the speech. Maybe I can look for it.

 

Lou's response- Actually, it is inaccurate anyway.

Posted by Lou Pilder on September 2, 2006, at 15:10:25

In reply to Actually, it is inaccurate anyway., posted by madeline on August 29, 2006, at 15:09:37

Friends,
It is written here,[..it is innacurate..]
I thank the poster for posting that.
You see, a false statement is not civil. I am asking those that are interested in this discussion to email me.
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net

 

2 + 2 = 5

Posted by finelinebob on September 3, 2006, at 0:11:04

In reply to Lou's response- Actually, it is inaccurate anyway., posted by Lou Pilder on September 2, 2006, at 15:10:25

a false statement is not civil.

Let's see:
A false statement is not civil.
A true statement is civil.
... or could it be that:
A false statement is civil.
A true statement is not civil.

Generalizations can lead to misinterpretations. Generalizations of definitives (All A are B) probably have a greater chance of leading to misunderstandings.

I could come up with simple examples to refute each of the four statements I made above. What potentially makes all of those statments uncivil in and of themselves are concerns of context and intent.

I tried my best to frame the context to examining a "logical proposition" by changing the subject line and removing all content from the post that included this proposition other than the proposition itself, even to the point of removing any indication this board uses to point out that the proposition was being quoted from another post. I also tried through this explanation to demonstrate my intent in how I chose to respond.

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But outside of all that is the fact that some people will still -- incidentally, serendipidously, subconciously, or intentionally (to name a few possiblities) -- misconstrue my intent or take it out of context.

Think globally, act locally. Civility starts at home.

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By the way, since many of you must have picked up the reference, if our context was some sort of Orwellian nightmare and we happened to be in the right building and I happened to be wearing the right "uniform", then you might realize the subject of this message is true, false, civil, and most decidedly uncivil all at the same time. That's context and intent for ya.

 

Re: please be respectful and sensitive muffled Gabbi~G~

Posted by Dr. Bob on September 16, 2006, at 9:31:49

In reply to Re: I think It was Religion that killed him Bobby, posted by Gabbi~G~ on August 29, 2006, at 22:12:28

> I don't f*cking care what other peiople think.
>
> Muffled

> It's just 99% of religion I despise.
>
> Gabbi~G~

Please respect the views of others and be sensitive to their feelings.

But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're bad people.

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce

Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Redirect: 2 + 2 = 5

Posted by Dr. Bob on September 16, 2006, at 9:32:46

In reply to 2 + 2 = 5, posted by finelinebob on September 3, 2006, at 0:11:04

> Let's see:
> A false statement is not civil.
> A true statement is civil.
> ... or could it be that:
> A false statement is civil.
> A true statement is not civil.

Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding civility to Psycho-Babble Administration. Here's a link:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060826/msgs/686504.html

Thanks,

Bob


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