Psycho-Babble Faith Thread 241088

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re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~my ORIGINAL results(!)

Posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 17:02:46

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results!, posted by Mercury on July 12, 2003, at 12:45:14

... okay, i confess, these are my top ten from the 1st time i took the quiz ...

Rankings:

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Neo-Pagan (98%)
3. Mahayana Buddhism (94%)
4. Theravada Buddhism (93%)
5. Liberal Quakers (91%)
6. New Age (89%)
7. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (86%)
8. Secular Humanism (79%)
9. Taoism (73%) http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8059_1.html
10. New Thought (71%) http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8056_1.html

(and then i went and put my buddhist thinking cap on and took it again ... ...
(How disingenuous of me is that? ... i confessed!))

... there's the link about New Thought
... notice how much closer we are, Mercury? ... ... interesting ... ...

... notice how i don't use this quiz as if it is really telling me what i believe? ... ... i'm using it as a philosophical from of sport, sorta ...

Any and All responses/participation will be appreciated!

~ jim

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~my ORIGINAL results(!)

Posted by habbyshabit on July 13, 2003, at 2:32:44

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~my ORIGINAL results(!), posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 17:02:46

Well, eating my late nite binge, I took the test...here are my results. I don't think the Frosted Flakes had any influence on the outcome - even if I do come across as a bit flakey!!

Back to bed with me now. Fun test Jim - I think you me and Mercury are triplets seperated at birth. Maybe seperated at the heart chakra - hmmmm..... (*_*)


1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Liberal Quakers (92%)
3. Reform Judaism (88%)
4. Neo-Pagan (86%)
5. Mahayana Buddhism (80%)
6. New Age (77%)
7. Sikhism (76%)
8. Hinduism (71%)
9. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (69%)
10. Jainism (69%)
11. Bahá'í Faith (69%)
12. New Thought (65%)
13. Theravada Buddhism (62%)
14. Secular Humanism (61%)
15. Scientology (60%)
16. Orthodox Judaism (59%)
17. Taoism (56%)
18. Islam (55%)
19. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (47%)
20. Orthodox Quaker (39%)
21. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (38%)
22. Nontheist (36%)
23. Jehovah's Witness (29%)
24. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (21%)
25. Seventh Day Adventist (19%)
26. Eastern Orthodox (11%)
27. Roman Catholic (11%)

Love and Light!
Habby

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~my ORIGINAL results(!)

Posted by Mercury on July 13, 2003, at 11:05:12

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~my ORIGINAL results(!), posted by habbyshabit on July 13, 2003, at 2:32:44

So my wife and 2 of my kids just took off for church. As usual, I didn't want to attend. She says I will appreciate the fellowship and friendships I would make should I choose to go. I want to be supportive, but I just can't get by the "belief gap". Its a methodist church, and as you can see by my belief-o-matic results (**wink**) I'm no methodist. Despite the various "activities" that this church sponsors, I know that there are only 2 reasons they want us to show up...and that's to "save our soul" and increase the the church income. Not necessarily in that order. I have no use for either of those two things. And I know that by attending I'll be setting myself up for a confrontation I don't want to have.

Thoughts?

Mercury

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by Dena on July 13, 2003, at 20:05:21

In reply to :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:08:24

I think this is the end of my two weeks of being blocked. I guess if I'm wrong, this won't post. Not surprisingly, I suppose, my results of this quiz are quite different from those who've already posted. I found the questions to be a bit narrow - I found myself wanting to expound a bit before answering. Oh well.

These are my results:

1. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (99%)
2. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
3. Roman Catholic (100%)
4. Seventh Day Adventist (91%)
5. Orthodox Quaker (88%)
6. Orthodox Judaism (69%)
7. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (67%)
8. Islam (62%)
9. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (60%)
10. Hinduism (58%)
11. Jehovah's Witness (56%)
12. Sikhism (50%)
13. Bahá'í Faith (44%)
14. Liberal Quakers (38%)
15. Reform Judaism (34%)
16. Jainism (32%)
17. Unitarian Universalism (29%)
18. Mahayana Buddhism (26%)
19. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (26%)
20. Theravada Buddhism (25%)
21. Scientology (21%)
22. Neo-Pagan (19%)
23. New Thought (16%)
24. Nontheist (13%)
25. New Age (12%)
26. Secular Humanism (9%)
27. Taoism (6%)

I'd have to say I agree with the results. I'm neither Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, nor Protestant, but a blend of the three... I'm a back-to-the-first-thousand-years-of-Christianity-when-there-was-just-"The-Church"-kind-of-gal. Back when people knew Jesus first-hand & carefully passed on His teachings without adding, deleting or changing anything to suit themselves.


 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dena

Posted by lil' jimi on July 13, 2003, at 22:21:52

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by Dena on July 13, 2003, at 20:05:21

hi Dena!

Welcome back!

you posted:
> I think this is the end of my two weeks of being blocked. I guess if I'm wrong, this won't post. Not surprisingly, I suppose, my results of this quiz are quite different from those who've already posted. I found the questions to be a bit narrow - I found myself wanting to expound a bit before answering. Oh well.
>
> These are my results:
>
> 1. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (99%)
> 2. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
> 3. Roman Catholic (100%)
> 4. Seventh Day Adventist (91%)
> 5. Orthodox Quaker (88%)
> 6. Orthodox Judaism (69%)
> 7. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (67%)
> 8. Islam (62%)
> 9. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (60%)
.... ....
.... ....
> 25. New Age (12%)
> 26. Secular Humanism (9%)
> 27. Taoism (6%)
>
> I'd have to say I agree with the results. I'm neither Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, nor Protestant, but a blend of the three... I'm a back-to-the-first-thousand-years-of-Christianity-when-there-was-just-"The-Church"-kind-of-gal. Back when people knew Jesus first-hand & carefully passed on His teachings without adding, deleting or changing anything to suit themselves.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

and here i'm posting in response:
thank you so much for your particpation on our Belief-O-Matic thread! ... i have read your previous posts and i want to tell that, although we could hardly have more divergent views, i have the utmost respect for your perspectives, and i deeply admire the honesty and forthrightness with which you are willing to express your private, personal faith.

i am honored to see your belief-o-matic results and i am impressed by two things:
your validation of its ability
(whatever that may be i leave open for further discussion ... please (?))
and
How does Mr.Belief-O-Matic's system manage to rank you as :

"1. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (99%)
2. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
3. Roman Catholic (100%)" ... ... ?

where your #1 is 99%, when #2 and #3 are each 100% ... ...
... to me, this neither makes any sense nor would seem to be possible
... although it makes things more interesting ... and mysterious ...

and i am more impressed with your statement of your faith
.... .... Jesus' Own Faith which He shared while He walked this earth as Jew, is at least as esoteric as my beloved Mahayana
... ... and as mysterious, for all the effort to distill its essense from the centuries of accumulated doctrinal church dogma
... (not that those are such bad things in and of themselves for those devout within the orthodoxy .... ... may all civility be praised!) ... ...

lest i cross any lines of the pBabble civilized, i'll quit now with my apprecation of your sharing your belief-o-matic with us ..... Thanks and very

Glad to have you back!
~ jim

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by stjames on July 13, 2003, at 22:54:56

In reply to :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:08:24

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Liberal Quakers (95%)
3. Secular Humanism (95%)
4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (93%)
5. Neo-Pagan (77%)
6. New Age (72%)
7. Theravada Buddhism (67%)
8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (65%)
9. Nontheist (64%)
10. Bahá'í Faith (62%)

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » lil' jimi

Posted by Dena on July 14, 2003, at 11:01:15

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dena, posted by lil' jimi on July 13, 2003, at 22:21:52

Dear Jim -

Thanks for your warm "welcome back". I appreciate your generous spirit, & the way you offer encouragement despite our, as you put so well, our "divergent" views.

Like you, I'm clueless as to why Mr. Belief-O-Matic would rank conservative Protestantism as #1 (at 99%), while both Catholisism & Eastern Orthodoxy matched at 100%. Ah, the mysteries of the universe remain ever beyond our finite minds!

Thanks for sharing such an interesting & useful quiz with us.

I suppose it works by taking published statements of faith (creeds, doctrines, etc.) from various religious organizations, & forming questions to enable them to match our answers with the beliefs of each religion/community of faith.

In my case, perhaps one of my answers aligned exclusively with Protestantism (some aspect not shared by Catholics & Eastern Orthodox), even while I matched up 100% with the latter two on the other answers.

thanks again, jim.

Shalom, Dena

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » lil' jimi

Posted by Dena on July 14, 2003, at 11:02:04

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dena, posted by lil' jimi on July 13, 2003, at 22:21:52

Dear Jim -

Thanks for your warm "welcome back". I appreciate your generous spirit, & the way you offer encouragement despite our, as you put so well, our "divergent" views.

Like you, I'm clueless as to why Mr. Belief-O-Matic would rank conservative Protestantism as #1 (at 99%), while both Catholisism & Eastern Orthodoxy matched at 100%. Ah, the mysteries of the universe remain ever beyond our finite minds!

Thanks for sharing such an interesting & useful quiz with us.

I suppose it works by taking published statements of faith (creeds, doctrines, etc.) from various religious organizations, & forming questions to enable them to match our answers with the beliefs of each religion/community of faith.

In my case, perhaps one of my answers aligned exclusively with Protestantism (some aspect not shared by Catholics & Eastern Orthodox), even while I matched up 100% with the latter two on the other answers.

thanks again, jim.

Shalom, Dena

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » lil' jimi

Posted by Dena on July 14, 2003, at 11:03:37

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dena, posted by lil' jimi on July 13, 2003, at 22:21:52

Dear Jim -

Thanks for your warm "welcome back". I appreciate your generous spirit, & the way you offer encouragement despite our, as you put so well, our "divergent" views.

Like you, I'm clueless as to why Mr. Belief-O-Matic would rank conservative Protestantism as #1 (at 99%), while both Catholisism & Eastern Orthodoxy matched at 100%. Ah, the mysteries of the universe remain ever beyond our finite minds!

Thanks for sharing such an interesting & useful quiz with us.

I suppose it works by taking published statements of faith (creeds, doctrines, etc.) from various religious organizations, & forming questions to enable them to match our answers with the beliefs of each religion/community of faith.

In my case, perhaps one of my answers aligned exclusively with Protestantism (some aspect not shared by Catholics & Eastern Orthodox), even while I matched up 100% with the latter two on the other answers.

thanks again, jim.

Shalom, Dena

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: OOPS!

Posted by Dena on July 14, 2003, at 11:09:15

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » lil' jimi, posted by Dena on July 14, 2003, at 11:02:04

I have no idea why my post was listed three times. Sorry - I think something was going on with the PBF site - it kept telling me to try to post again. Oy vey.

Dena

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: oops! » Dena

Posted by lil' jimi on July 14, 2003, at 11:43:13

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: OOPS!, posted by Dena on July 14, 2003, at 11:09:15

aaahhh, Dena,

With you, it is thrice as nice ...

Thanks again,
~ jim

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dena

Posted by lil' jimi on July 14, 2003, at 12:07:52

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » lil' jimi, posted by Dena on July 14, 2003, at 11:03:37

hi Dena,

> Dear Jim -
>
> Thanks for your warm "welcome back". I appreciate your generous spirit, & the way you offer encouragement despite our, as you put so well, our "divergent" views.
>

it's easy to see we believe differently ... ... it is also easy to see that folks of different faiths can and should be supportive each other and that we can do this even when we disagree ... ... especially when we disagree ... ... heckfire, there ain't no sport in being gracious and considerate with the folks we agree with! ... that's no challenge!

> Like you, I'm clueless as to why Mr. Belief-O-Matic would rank conservative Protestantism as #1 (at 99%), while both Catholisism & Eastern Orthodoxy matched at 100%. Ah, the mysteries of the universe remain ever beyond our finite minds!
>
> Thanks for sharing such an interesting & useful quiz with us.
>
> I suppose it works by taking published statements of faith (creeds, doctrines, etc.) from various religious organizations, & forming questions to enable them to match our answers with the beliefs of each religion/community of faith.
>
> In my case, perhaps one of my answers aligned exclusively with Protestantism (some aspect not shared by Catholics & Eastern Orthodox), even while I matched up 100% with the latter two on the other answers.
>
> thanks again, jim.
>
> Shalom, Dena

i believe that the BeliefNet.com folks have devised their own set of statements of faith for each of the ranked beliefs, which they offer at their place ... along with the links to these statements that come with our rankings ... ... and the quiz questions are focused to articulate the distinctions ... ... maybe

... ... i have read their version of mahayana buddhism and i would quibble with their take on it, but the quiz still seems a surprisingly accurate evaluator ... quite clever ...

thanks again for your participation,
~ jim

 

re: Belief-O-Matic results vs.church (long) » Mercury

Posted by lil' jimi on July 14, 2003, at 14:51:25

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~my ORIGINAL results(!), posted by Mercury on July 13, 2003, at 11:05:12

hi Mercury,

i hear what you're saying about church there ... ... but while we are here at pBab Faith, civility dictates a certain delicacy so we don't oppress the devout, but i'm going to give it a shot ... but you may understand if i sound a tince stilted ... know what i mean?

you have written:
> So my wife and 2 of my kids just took off for church. As usual, I didn't want to attend. She says I will appreciate the fellowship and friendships I would make should I choose to go. I want to be supportive, but I just can't get by the "belief gap". Its a methodist church, and as you can see by my belief-o-matic results (**wink**) I'm no methodist. Despite the various "activities" that this church sponsors, I know that there are only 2 reasons they want us to show up...and that's to "save our soul" and increase the the church income. Not necessarily in that order. I have no use for either of those two things. And I know that by attending I'll be setting myself up for a confrontation I don't want to have.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mercury

so, yes indeed, i have many thoughts about this ... and stories too ... ... i have been thinking about it ever since it was posted ... ...

first, my story:.

my folks were in the choir and so we went to church every sunday ... a regular routine ... somewhat mindless ... we would never discuss our faith at home, but i would attend sunday school and until i was 8, it was all the theology i had ... ... by 12 i had developed a problem i felt was overwhelming and overlooked ... turns out it was neither, but i was 12 ...

( ... i was brought up and confirmed an Episcopalian.)

actually i had more than one problem ... ... for instance, the observable fact that the vast prepondernace of the congregation were wealthy (to the apparent exclusion of poor or minority folks) would seem to fly in the face of the church's avowed commitment to social justice ... .. ...

... .. ... but the metaphysical issue i had discovered was the more worrisome::

IF God really WAS
all good, all powerful AND Creator of Everything ...
THEN
how could evil exist?
how could injustice exist?
how could suffering exist?
????????

evil exists.
suffering exists.

THEREFORE (my 12 year-old logical mind reasoned)
God was either not all good
(and therefore unworthy of our worship)
OR
not all-powerful
(and perhaps could have competitors for our worship?)
OR
not Creator of the universe
(well, okay 2 out of three ain't so bad!)
... ... but any of these options meant we weren't getting the whole story ... ... and this discussion wasn't even taking place ...
... .. ... heck, it wasn't even being noticed!

(we are, of course, told that human's Free Will accounts for the existence of evil ... that God in His magnanimity chose to give us Free Will and apparently in so doing decreased His all-powerful-ness ... ... or set up a Star Trek-like "Prime Directive" or something ... ... so anyway tne existence of Free Will let us humans let evil sneak in the back door, sorta ... ...
... ... this explanation dissatisfied me when i was 12 and still seems a complicated contrivance which does not seem to cover all the forms that evil takes ... ... but i shall not go on ... ... i came to repudiate the whole deal.)

i learned that this "Problem of Evil" is a whole area of discussion in theology ... ... but i also noticed that on its best day, the solutions relied in some form of dualism, which i was beginning to have less faith in ... ...

all of these considerations turned me into a non-believer and then into a rabid atheist ... ...
and i was really obnoxious with it!

thus, the church turned me 'anti-church' at an early age ...

story over, here are my thoughts:

now, there exist hypocrisies and ulterior motives in even the most devout spiritual communities and we find that where unenligthened humans command spiritual authority, often... very often, authority is abused ... and as a buddhist, i know of well-documented cases of such malfeasance in buddhist communities ...

... and these issues become even more revulsive where money becomes involved ...

... ... all of which is my confirmation of my agreement about your feelings ... ...
... and although i had felt church-hostile from 12 to about 25, i don't feel so much that way now ... ... here's why:

as i began to accept mahayana, i, for a long time, ignored my issues with the church (in the christianity sense of The Church) ... and when i came to witness the human imposed weaknesses in non-christian institutions, it became clearer to me that these hypocracies were endemic of all human activity and it was self-indulgent of me to expect this state of affairs to be different in church/spiritual organizations ... ...

(there's a part of my buddhism which insists on the mutually interdependent co-origination of all things ... )

... and it turns out that the solution to these hypocracies is/could/should be more particpation by more people of good will to provide more oversight and more self-regulation/self-restraint ... ... and i have witnessed that this can succeed and that decent christian church alliances can and have done good acts for social justice, working for the downtrodden, the disadvantaged. and opposing oppresion ... ... and raising awareness of important social issues ...

another story:
... the first time i went to my wife's presbyterian church in our neighborhood, i brought few expectations ...
... ... as the sermon began, the pastor said,
"If this BB represnted all of the fire power expended by all of the allies AND axis powers during World War Two .... "

... from a few feet he dropped the BB into a large stainless stell bowl, which caused a loud PING!

he then produced a large steel water pitcher and said,
"... Then this represents the fire power of all of the nuclear weapons of JUST the United States."

... ... then the pastor began to slowly pour the pitcher of BBs into the steel bowl ... hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of PINGS! ... ... it took some time and seemed to last forever.

he then spoke to our need as a congregation to oppose nuclear weapons .... .... he was an old man and he was speaking to a congregation old old people (i was among a small number of younger folks) and he was raising their awareness ...

my thoughts: i think that many a church may be able to benefit by the participation of those us blessed with revealed religion in contrast to the standard prescribed religion ... ... i think there are a very great many people who need a prescibed religion and many many times it is beneficial and helpful for them ... absent the rare direct experience we have had, they can have so little else to believe in ... ... of course there are many dogmatic situations where such participation would not be appreciated ... ... but with my ever so meager understanding of Methodism, they ain't so bad and are remarkably open to innovation ... at least the Methodist clergy i have met were very open-minded ... down right receptive folks ...

... now i have spoken of hypocracies, and i speak now of my own ... .. ... Mercury, i do Not go to church ... ... sorry, folks, i am too lazy, just yet ... ... i have "corrupted" my wife and we no longer participate at her family's local church ... ... because the leadership changed; we asked if we could be married there; we weren't active enough to qualify .... .... they weren't nice about it ...

... ... i'm looking for a buddhist congregation now... well, we are still looking and considering the options ... ... but i had to tell you that although i would encourage you to go with your family to church ... .. we do not go presently.

now if i encounter the folks who want to "save my soul", i ask then why they feel Jesus needs their help with my soul ... ... the bad ones will perservere with some quotations from the scriptures. ... ... then i ask then why their scriptures believe Jesus needs their help ... ... if they haven't quit yet ... .. ... i tell them their scripture must be wrong because Jesus Christ does not need their help to save my soul, thank you for being so concerned ...

and when i find a church i feel i want to support, i will want to contribute financially to their efforts ... ...

i think/feel that we should be able to participate without having to be too confrontational, even if it means having to deliberately give-ground in the name of civility ... ... like we do here sometimes.

i do have one more thought on this, but i am going to consider it some more before i offer it here as it may be impossible to post it AND be civil, if only because it amounts to what others probably should call heresy and i am not sure this can be done without offending ...
... .. ... and i do NOT wish to offend, nor be uncivil ... .. ...

anyway those are my thoughts ... ... i'm an accommodationist ... ... i admit it ... so shoot me! <wink!>

peace,
~ jim

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » stjames

Posted by lil' jimi on July 14, 2003, at 19:41:28

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by stjames on July 13, 2003, at 22:54:56

hey stjames,

thanks for posting your results:
> 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
> 2. Liberal Quakers (95%)
> 3. Secular Humanism (95%)
> 4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (93%)
> 5. Neo-Pagan (77%)
> 6. New Age (72%)
> 7. Theravada Buddhism (67%)
> 8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (65%)
> 9. Nontheist (64%)
> 10. Bahá'í Faith (62%)
>

so, what do you think?
an accurate reflection? ... useful information?
any comparison to your own views?

thanks for participating!
~ jim

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by stjames on July 15, 2003, at 19:56:29

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » stjames, posted by lil' jimi on July 14, 2003, at 19:41:28


> so, what do you think?
> an accurate reflection? ... useful information?
> any comparison to your own views?
>
> thanks for participating!
> ~ jim
>

Pretty good

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 21:34:13

In reply to :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:08:24

Reform Judaism 100%
Sikhism 99%
Bahai Faith 99%
Islam 94%
Orthodox Judaism 94%

Everything else way down.

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dinah

Posted by lil' jimi on July 15, 2003, at 22:28:21

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 21:34:13

hi Dinah,

thanks for participating and sharing your results ...
so, your top rankings are:

> Reform Judaism 100%
> Sikhism 99%
> Bahai Faith 99%
> Islam 94%
> Orthodox Judaism 94%
>
> Everything else way down.

... ... and, of course, you are unique!
do you feel this is reflective of your faith?
... so consistently middle-eastern, i must say ...

any feedback's appreciated!
thanks again for being a good sport!
hope you had fun!

~ Shalom ~
~ jim

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 23:20:20

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on July 15, 2003, at 22:28:21

Hmmm, I guess it's pretty accurate. I think Conservative Judaism would be a better choice for me than reform or orthodox, but I don't think it was an option. It's the same results I got last time I took the test, so it's consistent. I don't know all that much about Sikhism. I liked what I've read about Bahai. And Islam covers a lot of ground. That would be like saying Christian with no further qualifier.

When I was in college I wanted to join the Zoroastrians. Until I learned about the ox urine thing. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I respect everyone's customs. It just didn't sound right for me.

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dinah

Posted by lil' jimi on July 16, 2003, at 2:01:09

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 23:20:20

and Zoroastrianism isn't on the list, either ... ...
what else have these BeliefNet.com-ers left out?

... ... "ox urine" ... ... ?
... if i beg will you tell me?

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by habbyshabit on July 16, 2003, at 3:53:30

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on July 16, 2003, at 2:01:09

What an interesting thread! Thanks Jim for getting this thing going. I looked up universal unitarianism on line just to see what I was so 100% of! Of course, I didn't have much time to read much. I did find out there is a local chapter and church in the town close to here. I may have to visit them for a service or two to get a feel for it. It is located in a College town and so they are not having any services during the months of July and August. There are only 45 members to begin with - so if most are students, they'd be off home or something I guess.

It's kind of amazing that most who have taken the test come out with a high percentage of that particular religion on their lists. Does that mean those types are more likely to take the test?

I guess truly, this is only a small sampling and two contributors to the thread came our significantly different - and different from each other - so it's all very curious and interesting. I've enjoyed the whole thing quite a bit.

I'd grovel to find out about Ox urine also....

Habby

 

I'm sorry, I was mistaken.

Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2003, at 11:47:51

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by habbyshabit on July 16, 2003, at 3:53:30

It was bull's urine which is considered a powerful purifying agent in Zoroastrianism.

http://www.pyracantha.com/Z/vendnet.html

"Most of the purification rituals in the Vendidad consist of multiple baths or rubdowns with bull's urine, earth, and water, accompanied by the recital of the proper prayers. The most powerful ritual is the barashnom, a rite that lasts nine days and nights, in which the person to be purified is isolated in a special enclosure and bathed nine times with the sequence of bull's urine, dry earth, and water, as he moves through a series of sacred patterns and spaces laid out on the ground. This ritual can take away the pollution of close contact with corpses, but is reserved for serious occasions due to its length and complexity."

http://www.darkendreams.com/zoroastrianism.html

http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/gnosis/zoroaster.html

It's a fascinating religion. One of the first monotheistic religions, although actually it is more of a dualistic religion. Good/Evil.

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi

Posted by trucker on July 26, 2003, at 21:23:24

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results!, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:34:30

> ... And here are our lil' jimi's results ...
>
> 1. Neo-Pagan (100%)
> 2. Mahayana Buddhism (98%)
> 3. Unitarian Universalism (91%)
> 4. New Age (91%)
> 5. Hinduism (85%)
> 6. Theravada Buddhism (85%)
> 7. Liberal Quakers (78%)
> 8. New Thought (74%)
> 9. Taoism (71%)
> 10. Sikhism (70%)
> 11. Jainism (69%)
> 12. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (69%)
> 13. Scientology (64%)
> 14. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (59%)
> 15. Secular Humanism (54%)
> 16. Reform Judaism (51%)
> 17. Bahá'í Faith (45%)
> 18. Orthodox Quaker (43%)
> 19. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (32%)
> 20. Orthodox Judaism (31%)
> 21. Nontheist (29%)
> 22. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (27%)
> 23. Jehovah's Witness (21%)
> 24. Islam (19%)
> 25. Seventh Day Adventist (19%)
> 26. Eastern Orthodox (14%)
> 27. Roman Catholic (14%)
>
> ... ... and he calls himself a Buddhist!!
>
> .... .... i can find out about these Neo-Pagans, maybe ... ...
> ... ... any Neo-Pags out there?
> ... ... Not Sure?
> ... ... Then try the ol' Belief-O-Matic!
>
>
> (98% ain't too bad ... ... that's a solid 'A'. right?)
>
> ~ jim

///////////////////////////////////////////////
what religion are you dear???
trucker

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » trucker

Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 10:46:14

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 26, 2003, at 21:23:24

i am a Buddhist ... a Mahayana Buddhist.

how about you?

~ jim

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi

Posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 14:57:28

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » trucker, posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 10:46:14

> i am a Buddhist ... a Mahayana Buddhist.
>
> how about you?
>
> ~ jim

////////////////////////////////////////////////
don't know much about buddist
i am christian of the bible the whole thing
trucker

we all have our own beleifs don't we? i really didn't see mine on the test.

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Belief~O~Trucker ! » trucker

Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 16:10:33

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 14:57:28

you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
... could be fun ...

... what question would seem to be missing ?


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