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Lu's response to Sandrs Dee's post SandraDee

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 2, 2002, at 14:46:38

In reply to Okay, so I read the unveiled part, posted by SandraDee on October 2, 2002, at 13:07:56

Sandra Dee,
Thank you for you interest in the 7 Gates....
There is, however, another Gate left , so I am not finished telling my experiance.
But I am delighted that you are seeking final clarity, and I will strive to reveal the remaining Gate.
Also, thank you for your contribution of the links to the sites that you posted. I have never seen them before and in the first one there is similarity to what I have been saying. I have not read the second one yet.
Best regards,
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 3, 2002, at 7:50:29

In reply to The Word of God-the Rider unveiled-part 2, posted by Lou Pilder on October 2, 2002, at 12:28:11

Friends,
For the past 10 months, you have been reading about the experiance that I had that enabled me to have the power to overcome depression and addiction.
I did have an encounter with The Word of God. This did not happen because I was in a religion. I did not know the bible, nor was I a religious person. But there was a dramatic change in my being. It was a spiritual change. All things became new. Old things had passed away. I was a whole new person. And there was healing. I had a new strengh that enabled me to overcome the darkness of despair and enter a rhelm of marvelous light. It was The Kingdom of God within me. It is a spiriual kingdom that I entered. It is The Promised Land in your heart. I was led out of slavery by a miracle in the same fashion that the ancient Israelites were led out of slavery to cross the parted waters of the sea. I had the waters parted in my mind, and crossed over to The Kingdom of God. And the chariots were chasing me, but were swallowed up by the sea.
Next, I will tell of my experiance that enabled me to dwell in God's own mind and have the peace that passes all understanding.
When I was in he City of Peace, the Rider said to me, "Peace I give to you, not as the world gives you. Let not your heart be troubled, neiher let it be afriad."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 2

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 3, 2002, at 14:18:07

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God, posted by Lou Pilder on October 3, 2002, at 7:50:29

Friends,
The Rider explained to us His mission. He said, "The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me, because the Father has anointed me to preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of prison to those that are bound; To comfort all that mourn, To give them beauty for ashes,The oil of joy for mourning, The garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; That they may be called trees of rightiousness, The planting of the Lord that He may be glorified."

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 3

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 3, 2002, at 20:58:18

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 2, posted by Lou Pilder on October 3, 2002, at 14:18:07

Friends,
The next day, we reached the sea coast.There was a storm on the way and the sea was raging. We looked at the sea and the Rider said to us, "The raging sea is like the troubled soul. I must leave you now, but another will come to you that can still the raging sea in you. He will be a diffeent type of Logos with a mission to have you become sons of God and you will be born again. Tell Him that Melchizedek visited you."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 4

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 9:42:02

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 3, posted by Lou Pilder on October 3, 2002, at 20:58:18

Friends,
The winds and waves grew to hurricane force and we were covered with the waves. Then appeard a man out of the mist and said to us,"Why are you fearfull, oh you of little faith?" Then He stretch out His hand and rebuked the wind and the sea and there was a great calm. We marveled that the winds and the sea would obey this man. One said, "He must be the one that comes after the order of Melchizedek."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 5

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 11:09:17

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 4, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 9:42:02

Friends,
One of us asked who He was. He said, "I am the Light of the World. He thet follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the Light of Life. I speak not of myself, for it is the Father that dwells in me, He does the works."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 6

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:13:17

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 5, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 11:09:17

Friends,
He continued, "You have heard The Word of God and I come after His order and affirm evrything that He has said to you to be the truth. He is the Father and He dwells in Me and can dwell in you also. If you receive me, you receive Him also and as many of you that receive Me, you will have the power to became sons of God. Beleive Me that the Father dwells in Me and I in Him and We will come in and make our abode with you. You will be born from above."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 7

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:30:13

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 6, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:13:17

Friends,
One asked what He meant by what He said about receiving Him. He answered, " You have heard the Word of God. If you believe what He said, then you receive Him and Me also. It is not the hearers , but the doers that beleive. The devil believes and trembles. If you receive Me, then you will receive all that The Word of God has spoken to you and you will do it. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosever Believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 7:12:54

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 7, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:30:13

Friends,
He continued and asked us, "Who do you think that I am?"
One answered, "You are the Word made flesh and are the Anointed One told to come by the prophets."
He answred, "No man can reveal that to you, but only My Father which is in heaven can reveal that to you. If you follow Me, you will be hated of all men, but you will overcome and be given The Crown of Life. And do not fear them that can kill the body, but fear Him that can destroy both body and soul in hell."
Lou

 

Re: The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 8:01:33

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8, posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 7:12:54

Friends,
One said, "The prophets have told that you would establish a kingdom." He said to us, "My Kingdom is not of this world. Love not the world or the things in the world. For the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God. Beware that anyone take your mind captive through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men and the world and not according to The Word of God."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 9

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 7, 2002, at 6:37:44

In reply to Re: The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8, posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 8:01:33

Friends,
He continued about the world saying, "If you were of the world, the world would love you. But because you are not of the world, the world hates you. They will put you out of he gathering places of worship and whoever does evil to you will think that they are doing God a service. But I must go away now to the Father who sent me, for if I do not go to the Father then the Spirt of God could not come to you and dwell in you. But if I depart, I will send the Spirit to you."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 10

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:06:10

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 9, posted by Lou Pilder on October 7, 2002, at 6:37:44

Friends,
He continued, "God is love. He that dwells in love dwells in God and God in him. You become one spirit. For the Father loves you. This I have spoken to you so that you will have peace. In the world you will have tribulation, but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 11

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:42:18

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 10, posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:06:10

Friends,
He continued, "Hearby is the Way that you can dwell in God and God dwell in you. Whoso keeps the Words that the Word of God has spoken to you, in him is the love of God pefected, and you know that you are in Him and He in you.
God is light and there is no darkness at all in Him. He who loves his brother, walks in the light and dwells in God."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 12

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:48:31

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 11, posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:42:18

Friends,
He continued, "You will be imprisoned by people that are of the world. But you will overcome and receive the Crown of Life; for greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 13

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 18:54:57

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 12, posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:48:31

Friends,
He continued, "You can have God be pleased with you."
One asked , "How can we please God?" He answered, "Have faith, for without faith it is impossible to please God." Another asked, "How can we get this faith?" He answered, " Faith comes to you by hearing the Word of God. You heard what the Rider on the White Horse said to you. If you beleive what He said, then God will be well-pleased and count you as rightious."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 14

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:06:29

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 13, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 18:54:57

Friends,
He continued, " I am the Word that became flesh and I am the vine and My Father is the vine-dresser.You are branches and evry branch that bears fruit, My Father will purge and you will bring forth more fruit. Now you are clean through the Word of God that was spoken to you. If a man does not abide in me, he is cast off the vine and men gather them and they are burned in the fire. God commands you to love others as He has loved us. Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 15

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:17:37

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 14, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:06:29

Friends,
He continued, "You are my friends, if you do what The Word of God has said to you. From now on , I call you friends instead of servants, for all things that My Father has said to me I will reveal to you. I have chosen you so that you can bring forth fruit. Again, follow God's command to love one another."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 16

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:32:15

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 15, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:17:37

Friends,
One asked, "How does this love come to us?" He answered, "If you dwell in God , God will dwell in you. God is light. Walk in the light instead of the darkness. God is spirit. Walk in the spirit instead of the flesh. God is love and not fear. Follow the Word of God and God's love casts out all fear.
Lou

 

Hmmm...Anyone Else Remember This? lou pilder

Posted by Cam W. on October 11, 2002, at 0:43:15

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 16, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:32:15

Way back when all this started, I seem to remember someone saying this:

"I have nothing to do with any religion...."

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020202/msgs/17944.html

Luuuccy, jou have some splainin' to do!

- Cam

 

Lou's answer to CamW's post Cam W.

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 7:43:41

In reply to Hmmm...Anyone Else Remember This? lou pilder, posted by Cam W. on October 11, 2002, at 0:43:15

CamW,
For the past 10 months, you have been reading what I have posted about the experiance that I had tht transformed me in a way that I was able to overcome addiction and depression. The experiance that I had had nothing to do with belonging to a religion. In fact, I have been ostracised from religions. My friends and family have shunned me for telling them about my experiance. People have derided me and scorned me for telling them my experiance. Internet forums have prevented me from telling my experiance on their electronic boards. Yet today, I consider myself to be the luckiest man on the face of the earth.
Lou

 

Lou's answer to CamW's post-part 2

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 8:28:01

In reply to Lou's answer to CamW's post Cam W., posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 7:43:41

CamW,
It was revealed to me that the experiance that I had could be experianced by anyone. For the experiance was a spiritual experiance. Any one could experiance a Rider on a White Horse.The person's religious affiliation has nothing to do with receiving the experiance.
The Rider on the White Horse was the Word of God and the Word can dwell in anyone, regardless of their religious affiliation, or no affiliation at all. I have met people that have experianced the Word by hearing the Word. But a deaf person could hear the Word, for the Word is spiritually decerned. People have told me that they heard the Word in a cloud, or a fire, or in a dream, or a song, or that they had an encounter with a person and they said that the person was God clothed in a human body. This is called a theophany. Some of the religions of the world referr to their founder as being a man named Abraham. And they tell of Abraham being visited by a high priest from Salem that had no beggining or end. Some say that the man was God in a human body. These religions believe that God can visit you in a human body. And when I was in The City of Peace, I saw a Rider on a White Horse and He said to me, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He shall dwell with them. And God will wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, niether sorrow, nor crying, nor pain, for the former things will pass away." And He said to me, "Tell of these words, for they are true. I am the Alpha and the Omega. I wil give to him that thirsts the Water of Life freely. He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the fearfull, and murderers, the abominable, and the pharmakeia and all those that are liars shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone which is the Second Death."
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:18:19

In reply to Lou's answer to CamW's post-part 2, posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 8:28:01

Friends,
The word that I heard the Rider say was -pharmakeia. I later made an inquiery into this word and here is what I found out. First, the word is a Greek word, which our word pharmacy comes from. Also the word pharmakeus, pharmakon and pharmakos. I reserched the word through Greek language experts. My focus, here, is in the use in the Rider's statemet that the pharmakeia will have their part in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. The following is what I have found out about the word, "pharmakeia"
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(2)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:25:51

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia, posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:18:19

Friends,
In reserching the use of drugs, I found out that drugs have been used for 5000 years or so to alter a person's mind. Drunkeness is also having your mind altered, sometimes for a short time and sometimes for a long time. People have been altering their minds with wine and such since recording in the bible the account of Noah who planted a vinyard after the ark came to rest and he got drunk, possibly accidental.
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(3)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:34:57

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(2), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:25:51

Friends,
Now marijuana evidence has been discovered in tombs thousands of years old and has been used to alter the minds of paid murders thousnds of years ago. The word "assassin" comes from the name of the marijuana used back then called "hashish." The ancient Sumarians used opium thousands of years ago. Now I am getting to the use of the word,"pharmakeia" by the Rider in reference to drug use and these pharmakeians being cast into the lake of fire which the Rider said is the second death.
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(4)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:59:53

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(3), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:34:57

Friends,
I found out in my reserch about the Greek word-pharmakeia, that the word appears in the bible as the word, "sorcerer". And in my reserch I found out that a "sorcerer" was someone going back 3000 years or more, that used drugs to alter a person's mind. Hallucinogenic drugs such as marijuana, halluciogenic mushrooms, opium, and other substances were avaiable to the anciant peoples. And a dirivative of cocain has been found in the body of an Egyptian mummy over 3000 years old sugessting that Egyptians of that era travled to South America and brought back the cocoa leaves, since the cocoa plant is not native to Egypt. But, the plant could have florished in Egypt 3000 years ago. There is evidence that the ancient Egyptians used drugs for medicine and pain relief. In my study of the word pharmakeia, the use of drugs to relieve pain is not grouped with the use of drugs to alter the mind. In my reserch of the use of the word "pharmakeia", I have found that the use of the word, as translated "sorcerer" is confined to the use of drugs to alter the mind in a spacific manner.
Lou


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