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5-HTP $20 @ Walgreens! Where get tryptophan?

Posted by Fivefires on October 3, 2007, at 17:13:02

I've never tried it, but want to; tryptophan I mean, not necessarily 5-HTP.

Can any1 who 'is having' or 'has had' a good experience w/ tryptophan, point me towards a good alternative buy site or a brand name?

tks, 5f

 

Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3'

Posted by Fivefires on October 3, 2007, at 19:11:59

In reply to 5-HTP $20 @ Walgreens! Where get tryptophan?, posted by Fivefires on October 3, 2007, at 17:13:02

And a side of magnesium.

Wonder if this why hair falling out (w/ a tug anyway).

Wonder if this why I crave salt.

I've all of the above alternatives, except tryptophan.

Don't eat meat daily.

Hope to hear from some1.

Will have a handful of sesame sticks / peanuts mix.

Maybe have to get the big guns .. the Seattle's Best Creme Brulee, if no-buddy wuvs me.

justaspark, 5f

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires

Posted by circusboy on October 9, 2007, at 19:40:54

In reply to Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3', posted by Fivefires on October 3, 2007, at 19:11:59

There's just not enough energy on this board these days, it seems... sorry for the late reply. I only check here a couple of times a week anymore (not that I'm a prolific poster anyway...).

Anyway. I'm having success with the Doctor's Best brand of tryptophan. I buy it from www.iherb.com. Normally not a big fan of Doctor's Best, but it's doing the trick. I use the powder form so I can calibrate my doses more carefully. 500mg (the most common capsule dose) is too much for me. Even when I take it before bed, I have a sort of fuzzy hangover the next day. ~225mg (1/8 teaspoon) has been just about right.

Anyway, good luck... let me know if you've got any more questions about my experience with this stuff.

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by Fivefires on October 9, 2007, at 20:42:05

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires, posted by circusboy on October 9, 2007, at 19:40:54

Tks circus boy.

Ya' know, I think I'm confused about tryptophan. I had thought it would be an energy supplement, but I may have this backwards. Is it instead more likely to relax a person?

Tks so much for response. It's not that I don't need relaxing as well. I just got to thinkin' of the whole turkey and tryptophan v. the stimulant (can't think of alternative term at this moment) in things such as chicken, I believe.

Maybe u could set me straight here.

tks again, 5f

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by nolvas on October 10, 2007, at 13:46:56

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by Fivefires on October 9, 2007, at 20:42:05

Turkey and tryptophan is a myth.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=980&q=turkey+tryptophan+myth&btnG=Search&meta=

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by Fivefires on October 10, 2007, at 14:39:52

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by nolvas on October 10, 2007, at 13:46:56

I had wondered why there was a supposed difference in turkey v. chicken, and have suspected as much.

Guess I'll no longer need be wary, when hitting that midday slump at work as always did, in chosing a turkey v. chicken sandwich 4 lunch.

My fatigue problem is furthered by pain medications.

I'm getting a little confused re: fatigue v. relaxation.

I'm on Provigil but having some self-questioning re: dependence.

5f

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by circusboy on October 11, 2007, at 20:16:44

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by Fivefires on October 9, 2007, at 20:42:05

No, l-tryptophan probably isn't going to help with energy... L-tyrosine, maybe, but not l-tryptophan.

Tryptophan is converted to serotonin and then to melatonin (the sleepy one) once you consume it. I've heard that more of the tryptophan converts all the way to melatonin if you take it at night, but that's when I take it and it still feels plenty serotonergic.

Tyrosine goes to dopamine and norepinephrine. It's worth a try (I like the Jarrow Formulas brand), but even if you take it over the long term you'll probably want to take breaks... it makes me really irritable after a week or so! Now I only take tyrosine very occasionally.

I'll probably have to take tryptophan breaks, too, but I'm pretty new to the stuff (been taking it for less than a month).

Anyway, good luck! To both of us, I guess.

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan circusboy

Posted by sregan on October 11, 2007, at 21:08:25

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires, posted by circusboy on October 9, 2007, at 19:40:54

> There's just not enough energy on this board these days, it seems... sorry for the late reply. I only check here a couple of times a week anymore (not that I'm a prolific poster anyway...).
>
> Anyway. I'm having success with the Doctor's Best brand of tryptophan. I buy it from www.iherb.com. Normally not a big fan of Doctor's Best, but it's doing the trick. I use the powder form so I can calibrate my doses more carefully. 500mg (the most common capsule dose) is too much for me. Even when I take it before bed, I have a sort of fuzzy hangover the next day. ~225mg (1/8 teaspoon) has been just about right.

I use the same stuff, you get a LOT and the price is good. It's worked VERY well a few times (nothing I've ever taken has worked everytime or even remotely regularly). Lately it makes me spacey. I think the heat of the car got to it.

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by Fivefires on October 12, 2007, at 0:04:02

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by circusboy on October 11, 2007, at 20:16:44

> No, l-tryptophan probably isn't going to help with energy... L-tyrosine,>

That's the term I was trying to think of all this time - l-tyrosine!

>maybe, but not l-tryptophan.
>
> Tryptophan is converted to serotonin and then to melatonin (the sleepy one) once you consume it. I've heard that more of the tryptophan converts all the way to melatonin if you take it at night, but that's when I take it and it still feels plenty serotonergic.
>
> Tyrosine goes to dopamine>

Think I may need dopamine though.(?) I have Soma for sleep, but since beginning Provigil, tire more easily in eve and am able to fall asleep w/o anything.

> and norepinephrine. >

Yeah.

>It's worth a try (I like the Jarrow Formulas brand),>

Okay.

Does it happen to work in any way similar to Armour thyroid? I've given the prior some thought as well. My fatigue is simply overwhelming and interfering w/ my NADLs.

>but even if you take it over the long term you'll probably want to take breaks>

Okay. Learning this w/ Provigil as well.

>... it makes me really irritable after a week or so! Now I only take tyrosine very occasionally.>

I see.

> I'll probably have to take tryptophan breaks, too, but I'm pretty new to the stuff (been taking it for less than a month).>

This whole 'break idea' is a very good one. Takes a little planning, but worth it I think.

Tks much circusboy!

> Anyway, good luck! To both of us, I guess.>

Yes; you're in my thoughts too.

Tks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge w/ me circusboy.

5f

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by KarenRB53 on October 16, 2007, at 8:32:53

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan circusboy, posted by sregan on October 11, 2007, at 21:08:25

Has anyone used L-Tryptophan for depression?

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by Fivefires on October 16, 2007, at 14:37:11

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by KarenRB53 on October 16, 2007, at 8:32:53

I've recently spoken w/ some people who use it for it's 'calming or anti-anxiety' properties.

It's opposite, tyrosine, is something I'm looking into, which is supposed to be helpful for hypothyroidism.

5f

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires

Posted by sregan on October 20, 2007, at 13:13:05

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by Fivefires on October 16, 2007, at 14:37:11

I wouldn't call tyrosine the opposite of tryptophan. One is the precursor of serotonin the other dopamine.

Also Check into selenium for thyroid function. It is supposed to be very important.

Shawn

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by Fivefires on October 22, 2007, at 22:33:21

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires, posted by sregan on October 20, 2007, at 13:13:05

> I wouldn't call tyrosine the opposite of tryptophan. One is the precursor of serotonin the other dopamine.
>

Tks Shawn. Which one is the precursor to dopamine?

> Also Check into selenium for thyroid function. It is supposed to be very important.
>

Until can get into appt w/ endo (earliest January) trying a supplement called Thyroid Energy by NOW. Has L-Tyrosine, kelp, irish moss, guggul(?), ashwagandha, trace minerals, b vites 6&12, folate, iodine, zinc, SELENIUM 50mcg, and copper.

Haven't noticed anything really, but have only taken maybe 4days now.

> Shawn

I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know.

5f

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan circusboy

Posted by KarenRB53 on October 23, 2007, at 7:48:58

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by circusboy on October 11, 2007, at 20:16:44

> No, l-tryptophan probably isn't going to help with energy... L-tyrosine, maybe, but not l-tryptophan.
>
> Tryptophan is converted to serotonin and then to melatonin (the sleepy one) once you consume it. I've heard that more of the tryptophan converts all the way to melatonin if you take it at night, but that's when I take it and it still feels plenty serotonergic.
>
> Tyrosine goes to dopamine and norepinephrine. It's worth a try (I like the Jarrow Formulas brand), but even if you take it over the long term you'll probably want to take breaks... it makes me really irritable after a week or so! Now I only take tyrosine very occasionally.
>
> I'll probably have to take tryptophan breaks, too, but I'm pretty new to the stuff (been taking it for less than a month).
>
> Anyway, good luck! To both of us, I guess.

Do you find the Tryptophan helps you with depression? I'm trying to stay of antidepressants and thought from some of the things I've read that the Tryptophan would help the depression because it supposedly raises serotonin levels in the brain???

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires

Posted by sregan on October 23, 2007, at 20:52:27

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan, posted by Fivefires on October 22, 2007, at 22:33:21


> Tks Shawn. Which one is the precursor to dopamine?

Circusboy had it in his post:

"Tyrosine goes to dopamine and norepinephrine. "

Cheers

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan

Posted by Fivefires on October 24, 2007, at 13:46:40

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires, posted by sregan on October 23, 2007, at 20:52:27

Thanks sregan. My ginko must not be working.

5f

 

Re: Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3' Fivefires

Posted by sregan on October 24, 2007, at 20:56:17

In reply to Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3', posted by Fivefires on October 3, 2007, at 19:11:59


> Wonder if this why hair falling out (w/ a tug anyway).

Are you on any prescription medication?


> Wonder if this why I crave salt.


Adrenal Fatigue, Kidney issues maybe.

Did you post a response somewhere with your symptoms? What's going on with you. I saw another post about fatigue.

I've probably tried over 100 supplements, maybe I can help. What are your symptoms. What have you researched. If you don't want to post publicly (lots of others here can help also) feel free to babblemail me.

 

Re: source for l-tryptophan circusboy

Posted by KarenRB53 on October 25, 2007, at 7:19:46

In reply to Re: source for l-tryptophan Fivefires, posted by circusboy on October 9, 2007, at 19:40:54

> There's just not enough energy on this board these days, it seems... sorry for the late reply. I only check here a couple of times a week anymore (not that I'm a prolific poster anyway...).
>
> Anyway. I'm having success with the Doctor's Best brand of tryptophan. I buy it from www.iherb.com. Normally not a big fan of Doctor's Best, but it's doing the trick. I use the powder form so I can calibrate my doses more carefully. 500mg (the most common capsule dose) is too much for me. Even when I take it before bed, I have a sort of fuzzy hangover the next day. ~225mg (1/8 teaspoon) has been just about right.
>
> Anyway, good luck... let me know if you've got any more questions about my experience with this stuff.

Do you use the tryptophan instead of taking antidepressants? Does it help with depression for you?
Thanks,Karen

 

Re: Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3' Fivefires

Posted by Maxime on October 25, 2007, at 18:49:23

In reply to Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3', posted by Fivefires on October 3, 2007, at 19:11:59

I take 6 grams of tryptophan a night. I have a prescription for it.

Hair falling out? Use zinc and selenium and it will help. :)

Maxime


> And a side of magnesium.
>
> Wonder if this why hair falling out (w/ a tug anyway).
>
> Wonder if this why I crave salt.
>
> I've all of the above alternatives, except tryptophan.
>
> Don't eat meat daily.
>
> Hope to hear from some1.
>
> Will have a handful of sesame sticks / peanuts mix.
>
> Maybe have to get the big guns .. the Seattle's Best Creme Brulee, if no-buddy wuvs me.
>
> justaspark, 5f

 

Re: Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3'

Posted by Fivefires on October 26, 2007, at 0:59:11

In reply to Re: Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3' Fivefires, posted by sregan on October 24, 2007, at 20:56:17

>
> > Wonder if this why hair falling out (w/ a tug anyway).
>

Gyn told me I probably needed testosterone, but the progesterone in the bio-identical prog/test cream fatigue me 'more'.

> Are you on any prescription medication?>

See babble mail.

>
> > Wonder if this why I crave salt.
>
>
> Adrenal Fatigue, Kidney issues maybe.>

Guess endocrinologist would be able to dx this?

> Did you post a response somewhere with your symptoms? What's going on with you. I saw another post about fatigue.>

See babble mail.

> I've probably tried over 100 supplements, maybe I can help. What are your symptoms. What have you researched. If you don't want to post publicly (lots of others here can help also) feel free to babblemail me.>

Tks sregan!

5f

 

Re: Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3'

Posted by Fivefires on October 26, 2007, at 1:05:24

In reply to Re: Need 'B6' for 'tryptophan' for 'B3' Fivefires, posted by Maxime on October 25, 2007, at 18:49:23

I wonder about the fine line between relaxation and fatigue w/ tryptophan. I'm already very fatigued way too much of the time.

This new supplement I have has zinc and selenium.

tks, 5f


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