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Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Lamdage22

Posted by Hugh on December 8, 2021, at 14:00:22

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 8, 2021, at 13:47:06

> I had immunization with two shots of the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine. I may receive a Moderna boost at the end of december since we are kind of running out of biontech. What is the word about that combo?

Pfizer recipients saw antibodies increase 32-fold after receiving Moderna compared to a 20-fold increase after a third Pfizer shot. Recipients got a 12.5-fold boost after J&J.

But antibody levels decline at a slower rate in people who've received a J&J booster, and the J&J booster produces significantly more T-cells than the mRNA vaccines.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/mixing-and-matching-vaccines-cdc-walensky-fauci

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 8, 2021, at 14:02:03

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Lamdage22, posted by Hugh on December 8, 2021, at 14:00:22

Hm ok. I just hope I won't get any funny side effects down the road. I don't know what to believe these days. All I know is I can't get in anywhere without the booster shot.

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?

Posted by linkadge on December 8, 2021, at 16:51:29

In reply to The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 8, 2021, at 1:55:51

Fortunately, I have been able to continue working. There was an initial shock, but I'm back to baseline.

Linkadge

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?

Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 8, 2021, at 18:30:02

In reply to The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 8, 2021, at 1:55:51

i've gotten all my vaccine shots, covid shot, booster shot, all of them. I was forced to get them, i'm a antivaxxer because i know they use part of the cornavirus to make thw vaccinee, but i was obligated to have the shot, In US we are now easier on masks, you can go in many places now without a mask. It's better than the first wave that happened, with major infections in hospitals and overloaded with covid cases. The first wave of covid was the worst here in the US. 'I can't breathe' was said many many times by people infected with covid. There frequently are new varients of covid, it seems there's mutations and keeps mutating. The new varient that's out is defeintly to be taken seriously. It's not as bad as the first wave when hospitals were overloaded with patients. This virus keeps mutating, and taking diffrent forms and charasterics.

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?

Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 8, 2021, at 18:33:38

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 8, 2021, at 18:30:02

forgot to put i was forced, if i live at this place that required vaccine, if not vaccine - then it's the highway, live somewhere else. So, I complied and got all the vaccine. There's speculation that the coronavirus is used in part of the vaccine, all these conspiracy therppies it's part of population management. There's tons of therories, but i am an anti vaxxer, but i was forced, if i didnt get it, it's the highway

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Hugh

Posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2021, at 23:29:16

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Phillipa, posted by Hugh on December 8, 2021, at 13:43:29

Hugh had forgotten it was in the younger females that the blood clots formed. So you feel the strongest booster for me due to age and fact that had a J&J is another one? Are you in the USA? As not sure they are using the J&J in either Lancaster County SC or over the border 5 miles from me in NC? Phillipa

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?

Posted by undopaminergic on December 9, 2021, at 8:14:23

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Hugh, posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2021, at 23:29:16

I got my third Corona vaccination today; it was the Pfizer variant.

The second shot I got was also Pfizer, but the first was Astra-Zeneca.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? undopaminergic

Posted by Hugh on December 9, 2021, at 12:20:13

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?, posted by undopaminergic on December 9, 2021, at 8:14:23

> I got my third Corona vaccination today; it was the Pfizer variant.
>
> The second shot I got was also Pfizer, but the first was Astra-Zeneca.
>
> -undopaminergic
>

You received an excellent combo. Yesterday's announcement about the efficacy of a Pfizer booster for the omicron variant is very encouraging.

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Phillipa

Posted by Hugh on December 9, 2021, at 12:25:25

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Hugh, posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2021, at 23:29:16

> Hugh had forgotten it was in the younger females that the blood clots formed. So you feel the strongest booster for me due to age and fact that had a J&J is another one? Are you in the USA? As not sure they are using the J&J in either Lancaster County SC or over the border 5 miles from me in NC? Phillipa

Yes, I'm in the US. A J&J booster will probably last longer than a Pfizer or Moderna booster. Any of the three vaccines will greatly decrease your chances of being hospitalized with Covid.

This site will tell you where each vaccine is available:

https://www.vaccines.gov/search/

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state?

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 9, 2021, at 12:40:45

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Phillipa, posted by Hugh on December 9, 2021, at 12:25:25

All that is provided we are being told the truth. Wether it be efficacy of vaccines or psychmeds or anything else. Just saying. We dont know personally.

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Hugh

Posted by Phillipa on December 9, 2021, at 17:46:59

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Phillipa, posted by Hugh on December 9, 2021, at 12:25:25

Hugh thanks but why J&J for me and you seem to feel the mRNA ones are superior? Phillipa

 

Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Phillipa

Posted by Hugh on December 9, 2021, at 18:32:02

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Hugh, posted by Phillipa on December 9, 2021, at 17:46:59

> Hugh thanks but why J&J for me and you seem to feel the mRNA ones are superior? Phillipa

For most of the past year, most people thought the mRNA vaccines were superior to J&J. This is because the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines produce more antibodies than J&J. Now J&J is getting more respect because getting two shots of it appears to be just as effective at preventing severe illness as Pfizer and Moderna. While J&J doesn't produce as many antibodies as the mRNA vaccines, the antibodies it does produce last longer. And a J&J booster produces far more T-cells than mRNA vaccines, and T-cells last far longer than antibodies, and might be more protective against emerging variants.

Since you've already gotten J&J and tolerated it well, chances are that you'll do just fine with a second dose of it. But you'd probably do just fine with a Pfizer or Moderna booster. They're all good vaccines and whichever one you choose will make you much safer.

 

Moderna and the heart muscle

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 7:39:13

In reply to Re: The pandemic. Does it worsen your emotional state? Phillipa, posted by Hugh on December 9, 2021, at 18:32:02

How likely is it to get myocarditis? How much time after the vaccine could you get it? When are you cleared for strenous exercise?

 

Re: Moderna and the heart muscle Lamdage22

Posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 9:15:38

In reply to Moderna and the heart muscle, posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 7:39:13

Are you getting Moderna? What is your age? Phillipa

 

Re: Moderna and the heart muscle

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 9:21:19

In reply to Re: Moderna and the heart muscle Lamdage22, posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 9:15:38

I might be. mid 30's

 

Re: Moderna and the heart muscle Lamdage22

Posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 9:34:03

In reply to Re: Moderna and the heart muscle, posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 9:21:19

Aren't you in Germany? I only know that myocarditis occurrs rarely in younger males they claim. What they tell us here is it's mild but not sure I believe what we are told anymore. What information are you telling you there on all the vaccines?

 

Re: Moderna and the heart muscle

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 12:40:36

In reply to Re: Moderna and the heart muscle Lamdage22, posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 9:34:03

I don't know. They say what they need to say to get rid of unused vaccines.

 

Re: Moderna and the heart muscle Lamdage22

Posted by sigismund on December 14, 2021, at 13:22:22

In reply to Moderna and the heart muscle, posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 7:39:13

I don't know. It's real. As is the virus and its consequences. AZ is not at all effective against Omicron at 4 months which is where many of us are, just as everything is opening up for Christmas. Perhaps it will be fine and we can do things outdoors.

 

Re: Update on the omicron today.

Posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 18:48:20

In reply to Re: Moderna and the heart muscle Lamdage22, posted by sigismund on December 14, 2021, at 13:22:22


(Reuters) - Most of the 43 COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variant identified in the United States so far were in people who were fully vaccinated, and a third of these had received a booster dose, according to a U.S. report published on Friday.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that of the 43 cases attributed to Omicron variant, 34 people had been fully vaccinated. Fourteen of these had also received a booster, although five cases occurred less than 14 days after the additional shot, before full protection kicks in.

While the numbers are very small, they add to growing concerns that current COVID-19 vaccines may offer less protection against the highly transmissible new variant.

The Omicron variant of the coronavirus has been found through testing in about 22 states so far after first being identified in southern Africa and Hong Kong in late November.

Among the Omicron cases, 25 were in people aged 18 to 39 and 14 had traveled internationally. Six people had previously been infected with the coronavirus, according to the data published in CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

Most of them only had mild symptoms such as coughing, congestion, and fatigue, the report said, and one person was hospitalized for two days. Other symptoms reported less frequently including nausea or vomiting, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, diarrhea and loss of taste or smell.

The CDC said that while many of the first reported Omicron cases appear to be mild, a lag exists between infection and more severe outcomes. Symptoms would also be expected to be milder in vaccinated persons and those with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection.

The first known U.S. Omicron case was identified on Dec 1 in a fully vaccinated person who had traveled to South Africa. The CDC said that the earliest date of symptom onset was Nov. 15 in a person with a history of international travel.

The Delta variant still accounts for more than 99% of all U.S. cases. But reports from South Africa show that the Omicron variant is very transmissible.

Even if most cases are mild, a highly transmissible variant could result in enough infections to overwhelm health systems, the CDC cautioned.

Laboratory studies released this week suggest that the Omicron variant will blunt the protective power of two doses of Pfizer and BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine, although a third dose may restore that protection.

The U.S. has authorized COVID-19 vaccine booster for all Americans age 16 and older.

SOURCE: https://bit.ly/3oRj86d MMWR, online December 10, 2021.

 

Re: Update on the omicron today.

Posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 18:50:26

In reply to Re: Update on the omicron today., posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 18:48:20

What are other countries saying? Phillipa

 

Re: Update on the omicron today.

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 23:59:46

In reply to Re: Update on the omicron today., posted by Phillipa on December 14, 2021, at 18:50:26

They are saying here that one in 7000 gets Myocarditis from Moderna. I once considered one in hundred not much, and then I was one in hundred. (MAOI psychotic symptoms).

The only thing that I wonder is do I need to lay off the exercise for two weeks to be safe. Are younger people more affected because they do more sports and may do so sooner after the vaccine and more rigorously?

 

Re: Update on the omicron today. Lamdage22

Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2021, at 9:08:22

In reply to Re: Update on the omicron today., posted by Lamdage22 on December 14, 2021, at 23:59:46

That's a great question haven't seen anything that discusses this? Have you googled this? Phillipa

 

Re: Update on the omicron today.

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 15, 2021, at 13:54:16

In reply to Re: Update on the omicron today. Lamdage22, posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2021, at 9:08:22

I haven't found anything. It would be good to know wether the ones affected by Myocarditis actually waited long enough with their workouts. Have they ruled out people that workout in the first days after the vaccine? I hope to get Pfizer and to not need to take a vaccine I don't want just so I can get into places. I tolerated Pfizer well.

 

Re: Update on the omicron today. Lamdage22

Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2021, at 17:42:18

In reply to Re: Update on the omicron today., posted by Lamdage22 on December 15, 2021, at 13:54:16

Get the Pfizer read an article today that suggested the Pfizer for guys that are age 29 and under. Said no myocarditis with Pfizer but don't trust all the articles due to government here. Phillipa

 

Re: Update on the omicron today.

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 13, 2022, at 0:26:20

In reply to Re: Update on the omicron today., posted by Lamdage22 on December 15, 2021, at 13:54:16

I got the Moderna shot and no heart problems. My resting pulse actually decreased because I do some endurance work now. I stopped lifting weights for 4 days. On the fifth day, I worked out again. I think that young people tend to tolerate the vaccine well and then think they can work out the day after the vaccine and that is why myocarditis risk. But not sure.


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