Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 998807

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Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise

Posted by zonked on October 5, 2011, at 9:00:23

Hi all:

I have detested exercise my whole life. Even when I did it regularly. I find since adding testosterone to Nardil, when I climb steep hills or need to walk somewhere not close very fast, I get the "runner's high" I have been hearing about all my life, but never have had, until now.

Isn't that weird? I was in a funky mood yesterday, and ever since my first depressive episode, I've heard to, you know, exercise, go for a walk... never did crap. Now I'll be doing it regularly - something seems to have been missing in sufficient quantities in my body my whole life which is now present.

I might get a gym membership again, the first time I've had one since 1999. I've never been able to lift weights (or even do a pull up, honestly), just cardio, but now that I have more testosterone it might be worth giving a try. Anything that helps me to feel good & healthy, plus of course the superficial benefits. :-)

Exercise DOES work, but you have to be beyond severe-major-depression for it to work. And it's so frustrating to hear that suggestion over and over when it does nothing but make you frustrated.... I know. Trust me.

-z

 

Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise zonked

Posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2011, at 10:24:04

In reply to Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise, posted by zonked on October 5, 2011, at 9:00:23

Zonked I felt wonderful when could job and teach aerobic dance. I do now wonder if hormones play a factor as find now that post menopausal that excercise is harder and harder but blame age on that and having to ride a bike now as can't run any longer. But I do know the high I miss it so much nothing was ever hard, no problem couldn't be solved when excercising at that time. I do miss it so much. I'm glad you have experienced the high it used to hit me about half an hour after the run the answer to a problem? Whatever and then was able to relax. I wonder if hormones and excercise has been studied? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise Phillipa

Posted by zonked on October 5, 2011, at 11:16:37

In reply to Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise zonked, posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2011, at 10:24:04

> I wonder if hormones and excercise has been studied? Love Phillipa

I'm sure they have... testosterone is only controlled (CIII) in the US because bodybuilders abuse it; it does not otherwise meet the legal definition of a controlled substance but was scheduled anyway because of the abuse in the athletic/bodybuilding world.

I just was never capable of gaining much from exercise except exhaustion and frustration until recently. Hopefully, the benefits will continue. I should know my lab numbers by November.

As a completely unrelated note, I am going to watch SLS and others' long term response to Viibryd. If it shows consistent effect in TRD, I may eventually switch from Nardil, as it has put the pounds on me big time. A very exciting development, this Viibryd.

Stay well :-)

-z

 

Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise zonked

Posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2011, at 19:48:29

In reply to Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise Phillipa, posted by zonked on October 5, 2011, at 11:16:37

Zonked also watching. Wouldn't it be something great if this new category of med really worked for many others as well? Phillipa

 

Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise Phillipa

Posted by zonked on October 5, 2011, at 20:17:08

In reply to Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise zonked, posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2011, at 19:48:29

> Zonked also watching. Wouldn't it be something great if this new category of med really worked for many others as well? Phillipa

There should be more research. Unfortunately, I think the manufacturers can only dance around the depression thing (see www.isitlowt.com for the marketing). I don't think we'll ever see a CIII substance marketed for even TRD, especially a hormone.

I think more research should be done on men with T levels in the lowest 25-30% of what is now considered "normal" though. Nobody, especially the medical profession, would want men with high or high-normal T levels going into doctors' offices asking for testosterone. (The potential for faking depressive symptoms to obtain it for illicit [bodybuilding] use is probably far too high. Or to sell it on the street to a female-to-male transexual or something.)

Hormones need a closer look, yep. Adding thyroid is considered "classic" even in cases where TSH is normal. I almost tried Cytomel; I forgot the reason why I didn't!

Another gun in the arsenal I guess, if God forbid, I ever have another full-blown relapse.

-z

 

Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise zonked

Posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2011, at 23:38:35

In reply to Re: Some notes on TRT/response-remission and exercise Phillipa, posted by zonked on October 5, 2011, at 20:17:08

I don't know there is a hormone connection as no ad til menopause nor thyroid problems? Antiaging is the new horizon I hope. Phillipa


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