Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 866796

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Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by Keith Talent on December 5, 2008, at 0:58:33

Having just restarted on this, I can potentially see myself on quite a high dose (atypical MDD, SAD). Interested to hear of anyone's experiences with this, K.

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by SLS on December 5, 2008, at 6:54:17

In reply to Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by Keith Talent on December 5, 2008, at 0:58:33

> Having just restarted on this, I can potentially see myself on quite a high dose (atypical MDD, SAD). Interested to hear of anyone's experiences with this, K.
>

My "sweet spot" is 80mg. I have been as high as 150mg.


- Scott

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by SLS on December 5, 2008, at 12:41:45

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by SLS on December 5, 2008, at 6:54:17

> > Having just restarted on this, I can potentially see myself on quite a high dose (atypical MDD, SAD). Interested to hear of anyone's experiences with this, K.
> >
>
> My "sweet spot" is 80mg. I have been as high as 150mg.

I just tried to fill a new prescription of Parnate for the increased dosage of 80mg, but was denied. The Medicare Part D carrier is now requiring that my doctor fill out some papers to get a pre-authorization in order to take a dosage that is higher than the maximum recommended dosage of 60mg. Of course, this will be left up to me to set this thing up. This is a real pain in the butt, and there is no guarantee that they will approve it.

Damn. It's always something.


- Scott

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by Keith Talent on December 5, 2008, at 14:04:34

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by SLS on December 5, 2008, at 12:41:45

Interesting Scott about the 150 dosage. I'll mention it to my psych. Ya gotta love bureaucracy, right? We certainly have our share of it in Australia, although hopefully there would be no problem if I was prescribed 80.

Thanks for the info.

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? SLS

Posted by JadeKelly on December 5, 2008, at 18:18:52

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by SLS on December 5, 2008, at 12:41:45

Hi Scott,

Sorry to jump in here when you're going through such a hassle, but I left a post for you re: Parnate dosage, on that "all meds the same" thread. Would have left it here. I'm startin to feel kinda wierd (not the good kind) and just wanted your opinion about my unusual dosing. Hope they get that cleared up for you. PS-why don't you just see if you qualify for an honorary psychiatrist degree, then you can scribe for us and your colleagues can scribe for you.

~Jade

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? JadeKelly

Posted by SLS on December 5, 2008, at 18:42:05

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? SLS, posted by JadeKelly on December 5, 2008, at 18:18:52

Hi Jade.

> I'm startin to feel kinda wierd (not the good kind)

Can you better describe the feelings?

It might be better than you think. When you start nearing the right dosage of Parnate or Nardil, feeling wierd can be a good sign. Remember, these drugs must exert enough force on the brain to make it change. This sometimes produces some weird stuff early in treatment that later disappears as the brain adjusts and you begin to respond more robustly.

I replied to your previous post already. I hope you find it helpful.

Wishing you the best...


- Scott

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? SLS

Posted by JadeKelly on December 5, 2008, at 19:51:03

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? JadeKelly, posted by SLS on December 5, 2008, at 18:42:05

> Hi Jade.
>
> > I'm startin to feel kinda wierd (not the good kind)
>
> Can you better describe the feelings?
>
> It might be better than you think. When you start nearing the right dosage of Parnate or Nardil, feeling wierd can be a good sign. Remember, these drugs must exert enough force on the brain to make it change. This sometimes produces some weird stuff early in treatment that later disappears as the brain adjusts and you begin to respond more robustly.
>
> I replied to your previous post already. I hope you find it helpful.
>
> Wishing you the best...
>
>
> - Scott

Hi Scott,

A remarkable number of shi*ty things happened to me and my family a few years ago, when it was over, I was numb. I shut down. Diagnosis: depression.
Last few days feel like crap, irritable, etc. Last night horrible/violent dream. Made me cry this morn (not good cry) haven't cried in couple years. Realizing, numb wasn't so bad. I don't wan't to feel all that again. So you see my dilemma and are going to tell me its all normal?! Please, haha?

Thanks Scott, I'll check other post.

Oh, should I stay at 40mg then? I was freakin a little at how I was feeling so I raised dose to 50mg today.

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by SLS on December 6, 2008, at 7:12:14

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? SLS, posted by JadeKelly on December 5, 2008, at 19:51:03

Hi Jade.

I really don't know what to make of your discription. When I felt weird on Parnate early in treatment, it was like being in a fog and being wired at the same time. There is a kind of numbness about it.

I really can't know what is the right move for you right now. If you have been taking 40mg for more than a month without seeing any improvement, you might give 50mg, if tolerable, a chance to work for three or more weeks. Since I can't know if your side effects are temporary or not, you will have to be the judge of tolerability.


- Scott

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? SLS

Posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 13:53:02

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by SLS on December 6, 2008, at 7:12:14

> Hi Jade.
>
> I really don't know what to make of your discription. When I felt weird on Parnate early in treatment, it was like being in a fog and being wired at the same time. There is a kind of numbness about it.
>
> I really can't know what is the right move for you right now. If you have been taking 40mg for more than a month without seeing any improvement, you might give 50mg, if tolerable, a chance to work for three or more weeks. Since I can't know if your side effects are temporary or not, you will have to be the judge of tolerability.
>
>
> - Scott
>
> OK, Thanks Scott, actually, I was on 30/mg for 6weeks and 40mg for 2 weeks. Maybe I'll stick with 40 mg 1 or 2 more weeks then. I only took 50mg yesterday. Probably has nothing to do with Parnate.

~Jade
>
>

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by desolationrower on December 6, 2008, at 15:45:58

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by SLS on December 6, 2008, at 7:12:14

When i started parnate, days 5-14 or so i felt quite foggy. It felt quite like i was stoned; kind of confused, but goofy and increased positive affect which had been absent on the sri i was taking before. If you are just now experiencing some weirdness, maybe you just hit a therapeutic dose?

-d/r

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? desolationrower

Posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 18:46:13

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by desolationrower on December 6, 2008, at 15:45:58

> When i started parnate, days 5-14 or so i felt quite foggy. It felt quite like i was stoned; kind of confused, but goofy and increased positive affect which had been absent on the sri i was taking before. If you are just now experiencing some weirdness, maybe you just hit a therapeutic dose?
>
> -d/r

Hi d/r,
Same-roughly 2nd week of Parnate I had the feeling of the old me in a really good mood, lots of energy. Nothing foggy, one of those days I'd say I felt slightly euphoric.

But the wierdness I'm describing does not feel therapeutic. It feels awful. Especially last two morns. Almost paranoid, felt so shi*y. Only two things I could think of:

1. Drank 2 beers (Coors lite) night before, both nights. Could alcohol interfere with small benefit I'm getting? Or with low BP?

2. This morning slept REALLY late so didn't get Parnate till late. Am I surviving on tiny bit NE? Maybe had some w/d's?

Really don't think I'm getting the "real thing" yet. I think I'm getting small buzz off NE/EP cause I always feel better little while after dose.

Do you mind telling me your dosing schedule from beginning? How long on each dose, how long you've been on it, if you're responding? Anything else you can tell me? Do you take anything that you think effects your result (augment, adjunct, d/r's secret homemade recipe?)

I'm taking Klonopin 3mg daily for old neck injury. Don't need it anymore (don't think), could kick myself for not d/c before Parnate but wanted to start so bad. Could that be interfering with result?

Btw-I was going to find you today, I'm sure you know I used to "lurk" here a lot, did you know "Pheonix I"? Remember reading post about what happened when he went from Nardil (Canada ran out) to Parnate, I believe overnight, then I think back to Nardil. It was a quick (couple days?) taper. Anyway, outcome was PRES. If you don't know him could you do a search and check it out? I don't want to give Shawn bad advice. He already had that bad experience with 105mg Nardil.

He may be seeing a Doc soon, that isn't known for being stingy in handing out whatever.

Thanks a lot d/r! I'll expect a lenthy post back about the family, your feelings, emotions, etc. haha. OR-I'll take what I can get in answer to those questions!

~Jade

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by paddo on December 8, 2008, at 19:43:47

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? desolationrower, posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 18:46:13

Would lithium add any value with increase of parnate.

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by desolationrower on December 9, 2008, at 4:31:30

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? desolationrower, posted by JadeKelly on December 6, 2008, at 18:46:13

> 1. Drank 2 beers (Coors lite) night before, both nights. Could alcohol interfere with small benefit I'm getting? Or with low BP?
>
> 2. This morning slept REALLY late so didn't get Parnate till late. Am I surviving on tiny bit NE? Maybe had some w/d's?
>
> Really don't think I'm getting the "real thing" yet. I think I'm getting small buzz off NE/EP cause I always feel better little while after dose.

I don't think timing or a beer is going to have a huge effect.

> Do you mind telling me your dosing schedule from beginning? How long on each dose, how long you've been on it, if you're responding? Anything else you can tell me? Do you take anything that you think effects your result (augment, adjunct, d/r's secret homemade recipe?)

I started a 40mg. had a response to that after a week. spent a few weeks there, and then went to 60mg. no difference. I also take
50mg trazodone - for sleep
600mg adrafinil
20mg memantine - i am impatient, and think polypharmacy is a good idea, so i added this, as the only otehr option to modify glutamateric system with some evidence for unipoal depression is lamotrigine, and i didn't want to worry about rash, and memantine also prevents stim tolerance
various neutraceutical things. w-3 oil, ALCAR, very low dose lithium, b-complex, d3, minerals, etc
dysphoric mood ended with the tranylcypromine. anxiety and sluggishness/daydreaming/laziness which i don't think are caused by depression it does not help with.

> I'm taking Klonopin 3mg daily for old neck injury. Don't need it anymore (don't think), could kick myself for not d/c before Parnate but wanted to start so bad. Could that be interfering with result?

probably not

> Btw-I was going to find you today, I'm sure you know I used to "lurk" here a lot, did you know "Pheonix I"? Remember reading post about what happened when he went from Nardil (Canada ran out) to Parnate, I believe overnight, then I think back to Nardil. It was a quick (couple days?) taper. Anyway, outcome was PRES. If you don't know him could you do a search and check it out? I don't want to give Shawn bad advice. He already had that bad experience with 105mg Nardil.
>
> He may be seeing a Doc soon, that isn't known for being stingy in handing out whatever.

whats 'pres'?

myabe i'nm not sure what you're asking

-d/r

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? desolationrower

Posted by JadeKelly on December 9, 2008, at 13:45:01

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by desolationrower on December 9, 2008, at 4:31:30

> > 1. Drank 2 beers (Coors lite) night before, both nights. Could alcohol interfere with small benefit I'm getting? Or with low BP?
> >
> > 2. This morning slept REALLY late so didn't get Parnate till late. Am I surviving on tiny bit NE? Maybe had some w/d's?
> >
> > Really don't think I'm getting the "real thing" yet. I think I'm getting small buzz off NE/EP cause I always feel better little while after dose.
>
> I don't think timing or a beer is going to have a huge effect.

Well thats a relief cause I had quit with my eve coctail (wine) hour, maybe if I can add that back I'll feel better about this waiting. Also, I like taking my Parnate dose all at once, Scott said he'd never heard of that, or never heard Doc scribe it that way. You think its ok 50mg as one dose?
>
> > Do you mind telling me your dosing schedule from beginning? How long on each dose, how long you've been on it, if you're responding? Anything else you can tell me? Do you take anything that you think effects your result (augment, adjunct, d/r's secret homemade recipe?)
>
> I started a 40mg. had a response to that after a week. spent a few weeks there, and then went to 60mg. no difference. I also take
> 50mg trazodone - for sleep
> 600mg adrafinil
> 20mg memantine - i am impatient, and think polypharmacy is a good idea, so i added this, as the only otehr option to modify glutamateric system with some evidence for unipoal depression is lamotrigine, and i didn't want to worry about rash, and memantine also prevents stim tolerance
> various neutraceutical things. w-3 oil, ALCAR, very low dose lithium, b-complex, d3, minerals,
etc

So since I can't tolerate provigil, do you think its ok to take small amount of ritalin 5mg 3xday, along with my Parnate,(up to 50mg day)? And add memantine? I have zero energy, its starting to really interfere with my life. I stopped Ritalin (after years of a friendly relationship) a bit before starting Parnate as per PDoc. Now the challenge would be to get Ritalin prescribed.

> dysphoric mood ended with the tranylcypromine.

So you are happy with (results of) Parnate? Glad your dysphoric mood is gone, just wondered if it did all you wanted it to. At 60mg, you feel no lift in any depressive symptoms other than dysphoric mood? (Maybe you answered that next)

anxiety and sluggishness/daydreaming/laziness which i don't think are caused by depression it does not help with.
>
> > I'm taking Klonopin 3mg daily for old neck injury. Don't need it anymore (don't think), could kick myself for not d/c before Parnate but wanted to start so bad. Could that be interfering with result?
>
> probably not
>
> > Btw-I was going to find you today, I'm sure you know I used to "lurk" here a lot, did you know "Pheonix I"? Remember reading post about what happened when he went from Nardil (Canada ran out) to Parnate, I believe overnight, then I think back to Nardil. It was a quick (couple days?) taper. Anyway, outcome was PRES. If you don't know him could you do a search and check it out? I don't want to give Shawn bad advice. He already had that bad experience with 105mg Nardil.
> >
> > He may be seeing a Doc soon, that isn't known for being stingy in handing out whatever.
>
> whats 'pres'?
>
> myabe i'nm not sure what you're asking

Sorry, thought it was common term, I believe from posts re: PheonixI that its bleeding in the brain, causing pressure, causing stroke. Something like that. Can result from HTC.
>
> -d/r

Thanks d/r,

Just getting frustrated.

~Jade
>
>

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? paddo

Posted by JadeKelly on December 9, 2008, at 23:35:04

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by paddo on December 8, 2008, at 19:43:47

> Would lithium add any value with increase of parnate.

Not sure, I'd have to check that out. I would think so in some cases. Seems like Parnate is a med that likes to be augmented, done all the time.

Are you on an MAOI?

~Jade

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by desolationrower on December 10, 2008, at 3:31:19

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? desolationrower, posted by JadeKelly on December 9, 2008, at 13:45:01

> Well thats a relief cause I had quit with my eve coctail (wine) hour, maybe if I can add that back I'll feel better about this waiting. Also, I like taking my Parnate dose all at once, Scott said he'd never heard of that, or never heard Doc scribe it that way. You think its ok 50mg as one dose?

I think the main risk would be spontaneous hypertensive crisis. Not much information on it. Why do you prefer it, something besides fewer dosings to remember?

> So since I can't tolerate provigil, do you think its ok to take small amount of ritalin 5mg 3xday, along with my Parnate,(up to 50mg day)? And add memantine? I have zero energy, its starting to really interfere with my life. I stopped Ritalin (after years of a friendly relationship) a bit before starting Parnate as per PDoc. Now the challenge would be to get Ritalin prescribed.

If the ritalin worked alone, i think trying it again would certainly make sense. do you have the same doc as before? was it for adhd? i guess it sounded like your current problems were more mood-based not adhd. I think adding lamotrigine then ritalin would be a better order than the reverse.

> So you are happy with (results of) Parnate? Glad your dysphoric mood is gone, just wondered if it did all you wanted it to. At 60mg, you feel no lift in any depressive symptoms other than dysphoric mood? (Maybe you answered that next)
>

well i'm not sure i've had depressive symptoms other than that. However most professionals see the other problems as due to the depression. I think the depression/dysphoria is just the most recent and least bothersome symptom. So while parnate has been by far the best antidepressant, i have not noticed help with other problems which i was hoping it woudl help with.

-d/r

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by JadeKelly on December 10, 2008, at 16:31:00

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by desolationrower on December 10, 2008, at 3:31:19

> > Well thats a relief cause I had quit with my eve coctail (wine) hour, maybe if I can add that back I'll feel better about this waiting. Also, I like taking my Parnate dose all at once, Scott said he'd never heard of that, or never heard Doc scribe it that way. You think its ok 50mg as one dose?
>
> I think the main risk would be spontaneous hypertensive crisis. Not much information on it. Why do you prefer it, something besides fewer dosings to remember?

Honest answer? I like the buzz. My Pdoc originally started me at one morning dose and never said one way or the other as I raised dose. But low BP was pretty crazy yesterday, so I am splitting dose now. Plus, I think the low BP may be causing some of my fatigue, not all, but some.
>
> > So since I can't tolerate provigil, do you think its ok to take small amount of ritalin 5mg 3xday, along with my Parnate,(up to 50mg day)? And add memantine? I have zero energy, its starting to really interfere with my life. I stopped Ritalin (after years of a friendly relationship) a bit before starting Parnate as per PDoc. Now the challenge would be to get Ritalin prescribed.
>
> If the ritalin worked alone, i think trying it again would certainly make sense. do you have the same doc as before? was it for adhd? i guess it sounded like your current problems were more mood-based not adhd. I think adding lamotrigine then ritalin would be a better order than the reverse.

Yes, same PDoc. I just know Ritalin gets me focused on a task and gives me the motivation to follow thru, maybe energy also.Looking for Parnate to rid me of this depression. Just desperately need something to get me up and going. Lethargy seems to be large component of my depression. Will Lamictal help with that? I don't care about the rash thing, but I also need something that'll work yesterday. So much to do, zero energy. Other stims, prov,etc. are out for me.
>
> > So you are happy with (results of) Parnate? Glad your dysphoric mood is gone, just wondered if it did all you wanted it to. At 60mg, you feel no lift in any depressive symptoms other than dysphoric mood? (Maybe you answered that next)
> >
>
> well i'm not sure i've had depressive symptoms other than that. However most professionals see the other problems as due to the depression. I think the depression/dysphoria is just the most recent and least bothersome symptom. So while parnate has been by far the best antidepressant, i have not noticed help with other problems which i was hoping it woudl help with.
>
> -d/r


Well, glad Parnate is wrkg for ya. Thanks for all responses.

~Jade

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by desolationrower on December 10, 2008, at 19:50:02

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by JadeKelly on December 10, 2008, at 16:31:00

Well lamotrigine isn't quick, and doesn't have any general energizing properties. its more that if you do have bipolar tendencies, the antidepressant + stimulant might trigger mania, so having a mood stabilizer first woudl be good. But lamotrigine is mostly just a drug that has antidepressant effect and reduces cycling by stopping depression, but doesn't cause mania itself. i don't think theres much saying it can stop/prevent mania (except by preventing depression), so if you do have maoi+stim and your doc thinks you have bipolar risk, then probably lithium or neuroleptic addition next, then ritalin might be better. Its just you don't want to add ritalin, trigger manic reaction or rapid cycling, and make your brain more stubborn to work with, plus all the unpleasantness of crazy moods.

interesting you feel a 'buzz' from the tcp. sometimes after i take a dose i notice a bit of tension in my chest, probably would make me feel panicky if i were prone to feeling that.
-d/r

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by paddo on December 11, 2008, at 2:11:18

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? paddo, posted by JadeKelly on December 9, 2008, at 23:35:04

Hi..yes i am on MAOI parnate. Just today psychdoc suggested to ^up parnate from the present 40mg. Tomorrow 60 30/30 m/n..i also take lamictal 200 mg m/nite ..off serequel thank god. Since 28th november temazapan for sleep ..sorta semi has affect for some sleep..Ativan 1/4 twice a day more if needed. Apart from a few ugly days nites, reduction in chronic angst dep also reduced s.a. equally ocd at times to put simply ignore. Today as it does misery returned. Earlier in the week i had this amasing surge of energy, focused to work around the home..outside of home easy conversations, eye contact good ..sense of humour returned . I take no delight in taking benzo's, previous experience's. Caught between a rock and a hard place i guess. Xcuse this ramble, in the darkness of mind as well as the darkness of sitting in front of pter,yes the lights are on, if well enough this site distracts me like nothing else..a life-saver i gather a lot of strength from you all. thankyou. paddo

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? paddo

Posted by JadeKelly on December 11, 2008, at 20:08:42

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by paddo on December 11, 2008, at 2:11:18

Hello paddo,

> Hi..yes i am on MAOI parnate. Just today psychdoc suggested to ^up parnate from the present 40mg. Tomorrow 60 30/30 m/n.


Looks like a lot of PDoc's skip the 50mg dose and go from 40mg to 60mg. I wonder why. I just asked to go from 40mg to 50mg as thought it would be next. I'll have to learn to keep my mouth shut!!


.i also take lamictal 200 mg m/nite ..off serequel thank god. Since 28th november temazapan for sleep ..sorta semi has affect for some sleep..Ativan 1/4 twice a day more if needed.


How do you find the Lamictal? I've had a lot of people (including PDoc) say its worth trying, do you think so? What benefit do you think you get from it specifically?

Apart from a few ugly days nites, reduction in chronic angst dep also reduced s.a. equally ocd at times to put simply ignore. Today as it does misery returned. Earlier in the week i had this amasing surge of energy, focused to work around the home..outside of home easy conversations, eye contact good ..sense of humour returned .


To what do attribute your good mood earlier in the week? Gosh I'd love some of that! Had you added or increased anything? Dropped anything like seroquel? I always feel great/energetic just after dose increase of Parnate (however didn't have it this time-40mg to 50mg). Glad I'm not the only one who get's that really "ugly" couple of days occasionally. A friend of mine had the theory that when taking MAOI, its a bumpy road till benefits of inhibition catch up to each other. Don't know.

I take no delight in taking benzo's, previous experience's. Caught between a rock and a hard place i guess. Xcuse this ramble, in the darkness of mind as well as the darkness of sitting in front of pter,yes the lights are on, if well enough this site distracts me like nothing else..a life-saver i gather a lot of strength from you all. thankyou. paddo

My lights are not on, well, couple lamps, haha, and btw, that was not a ramble. I joined a couple months ago (I had been lurking for long time) and it's been really helpful when I had no clue what I was doing. Lot of nice people too, so good to know you're not alone! Keep in touch re: your Parnate progress, I will too! Oh, would like to hear back about questions if you have time. Also, tell me about your SA & OCD, didn't understand if Parnate helped those or not. I don't suffer from those, just a nasty depression, but many here do.

Hope to talk soon,

~Jade

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?

Posted by paddo on December 14, 2008, at 18:04:27

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? paddo, posted by JadeKelly on December 11, 2008, at 20:08:42

Hello back JadeKelly, my limited understanding in my country Australia re: psychdoctors. Some not all doctors are very consertive in relation to meds in general. It took a lot of persuasion on my part for my psychdoctor to get with the *plan* for increase in parnate . The big plus if you like was to refer to this site. Jury is out on Lamictal , Jade i have a very very complicated health issues .. one of which is epilepsy .. Lamictal good for epilepsy not real sure on the depressive effect on depression/anx .. many speak of its positve effect, lamictal is good for individuals with bipolar .. new year will speak to neuropsychdoctor on that subject .. long time since last seizure . I will in time get back to you on that, our medical situation maybe like other countries is a gongo line of patients. Jade i attribute the good days .. nothing more than ever so slow of Avitan, a benzo into the process, i take morning and nite ..it slows the mind decreases rumination weeping,irrits volitility etc: general misery, meds work in msyterious ways .. what do you think on that subject. Yes Jade your friends theory had a lot of merit no doubt. Parnate is a long long road ..then suddenly for some ..the corner comes. Who knows when. I like your humour Jade whether its morbid or just plain laughing if your in a moment. Thinking what does this all mean ..one has to have some morbid/general humour in misery ha ha . I must share with you Jade . I have lurked for quite awhile .. i honestly couldnt think straight to ask any questions. Real real bad foggy thinking, oh god the lack of concentration not worthy the list goes on. To be perfectly honest right this moment, my general thought.. Am i making sense ..weird. Maybe i just maybe haha. Jade, yes stacks of good intelligent woman and men. Jade given the ups and downs with misery more than happy to share my story with you. Lets make this a boomorang share as you like with me on anything ok. Oh i nearly forgot. Ocd S.A comes with the dep/anx jade its a story of itself. The general believe Jade whether its right or wrong .. no dep/anx comes alone .. for some it can be Ocd etc. Many many thanks for you correspondence to me. Parnate has taken a long long time to "kick" in ..yep in a small way my believe ..parnate is a factor in this complicated illness. If i have left anything else Jade please mail back. In the meantime may this season bring with it some peace for you. Take care Jade. I am thinking of you. Paddo ..

 

Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day? paddo

Posted by JadeKelly on December 14, 2008, at 19:39:43

In reply to Re: Parnate - anyone on over 70 mg/day?, posted by paddo on December 14, 2008, at 18:04:27

> Hello back JadeKelly, my limited understanding in my country Australia re: psychdoctors. Some not all doctors are very consertive in relation to meds in general. It took a lot of persuasion on my part for my psychdoctor to get with the *plan* for increase in parnate . The big plus if you like was to refer to this site. Jury is out on Lamictal , Jade i have a very very complicated health issues .. one of which is epilepsy .. Lamictal good for epilepsy not real sure on the depressive effect on depression/anx .. many speak of its positve effect, lamictal is good for individuals with bipolar .. new year will speak to neuropsychdoctor on that subject .. long time since last seizure . I will in time get back to you on that, our medical situation maybe like other countries is a gongo line of patients. Jade i attribute the good days .. nothing more than ever so slow of Avitan, a benzo into the process, i take morning and nite ..it slows the mind decreases rumination weeping,irrits volitility etc: general misery, meds work in msyterious ways .. what do you think on that subject. Yes Jade your friends theory had a lot of merit no doubt. Parnate is a long long road ..then suddenly for some ..the corner comes. Who knows when. I like your humour Jade whether its morbid or just plain laughing if your in a moment. Thinking what does this all mean ..one has to have some morbid/general humour in misery ha ha . I must share with you Jade . I have lurked for quite awhile .. i honestly couldnt think straight to ask any questions. Real real bad foggy thinking, oh god the lack of concentration not worthy the list goes on. To be perfectly honest right this moment, my general thought.. Am i making sense ..weird. Maybe i just maybe haha. Jade, yes stacks of good intelligent woman and men. Jade given the ups and downs with misery more than happy to share my story with you. Lets make this a boomorang share as you like with me on anything ok. Oh i nearly forgot. Ocd S.A comes with the dep/anx jade its a story of itself. The general believe Jade whether its right or wrong .. no dep/anx comes alone .. for some it can be Ocd etc. Many many thanks for you correspondence to me. Parnate has taken a long long time to "kick" in ..yep in a small way my believe ..parnate is a factor in this complicated illness. If i have left anything else Jade please mail back. In the meantime may this season bring with it some peace for you. Take care Jade. I am thinking of you. Paddo ..

Hello Paddo,

I'm unusually timely today, well, mainly cause I have nothing I feel like doing. So here I sit being lazy on my computer! First Paddo, your illnesses won't scare me, my son has Epilepsy since age 3, and bi-polarI started at age 16. I, myself have MDD, but I do believe Parnate is starting to work. Its a little transient right now, some good days, some ok days, but no days like when this he*l started (my first depression) I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, well, maybe just one or two people. But I promise they deserve it. So, if your docs are conservatve by nature, your lucky to get an MAOI I think. A lot of Docs here wont prescribe them. I got a little confused back there, are you getting good response from Parnate? How long on it? But then you were saying any good mood comes from benzos? Is it both? Parnate hasn't kicked in yet? I don't get "high" on benzos so no risk for me, but I'd just be careful with them if they make you feel really good, can be very addictive. Whats a "gongo line of patients" haha? Sorry, it just sounds funny! Paddo, don't worry what your posts sound like. We have good days, we have bad days. We're all a little wierd (I'll probably pay for that). As for what I think of "general misery"? I think it suc*s. And yes, I agree medicines work in mysterious ways. If you're asking me what my feeling on taking benzos in small amounts to get you through the most difficult moments, I think its fine as long as you don't take more than prescibed. They may help till you get full effect of Parnate. Oh, two questions, out of order:

1. When the jury announces its verdict on the Lamictal, will you let me know? I'm thinking of adding it to the Parnate.

2. Can't remember, feel better now? My brain is not working anymore so I will say goodnight.

I look forward to getting to know you better!

~Jade


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