Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 797832

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Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?

Posted by qbsbrown on November 30, 2007, at 11:57:34

This is the only mood stablizer that i can tolerate, and works, but only at high doses.

My doc, who is a prominent bipolar expert, says that i can go to 30mgs.

Aside from the weight gain, it works well.

Everywhere i look, i see maximum of 20mgs.

Has anyone tried 30mgs?

Brian

 

Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?

Posted by Zyprexa on November 30, 2007, at 12:29:06

In reply to Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?, posted by qbsbrown on November 30, 2007, at 11:57:34

I have! Just the other day. I've gone as high as 50mg once or twice. My doctor says its fine. Nothing bad happened.

 

Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa? Zyprexa

Posted by yxibow on November 30, 2007, at 12:55:31

In reply to Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?, posted by Zyprexa on November 30, 2007, at 12:29:06

Yes, I've heard of a ceiling of 30mg for Zyprexa from my doctor. Now I'm not going to go over my unusual sensitivity to the compound, but if you ever feel stiff, drop and or taper it away with your doctor's help promptly. That would be rare though, very, unfortunately :/

 

Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?

Posted by qbsbrown on November 30, 2007, at 13:44:17

In reply to Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?, posted by Zyprexa on November 30, 2007, at 12:29:06

Thanks for the validation that she knows what she's talking about.

I can't even drive w my racing thoughts w/o taking 30mgs. Only problem has been the huge weight gain and blood pressure rising.

Brian

 

Zyprexa

Posted by Sigismund on December 1, 2007, at 0:23:02

In reply to Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?, posted by qbsbrown on November 30, 2007, at 13:44:17

What's it feel like?

(The only APs I've tried are the old ones, so I guess I am imagining some (horrible!) version of that.)

But maybe it is completely different?

 

Re: Zyprexa Sigismund

Posted by yxibow on December 1, 2007, at 2:51:23

In reply to Zyprexa, posted by Sigismund on December 1, 2007, at 0:23:02

> What's it feel like?
>
> (The only APs I've tried are the old ones, so I guess I am imagining some (horrible!) version of that.)
>
> But maybe it is completely different?

The two relatively EPS free atypicals, Zyprexa, and Seroquel once stabilized feel really quite different. No wanting to run through the walls with akathisia. Weight gain possibilities when not monitoring food and/or genetic susceptibility to Type-II Diabetes, yes.

Seroquel is somewhat more groggy than Zyprexa to me but all of these variables are quite different to the patient, and the dose taken which both have very wide ranges. They both tend to be their own antihistamines.

Orthostatic hypotension is a possibility because of the manner in which the drug touches certain receptors, so dont jump up suddenly until you're used to it. Lastly, fatigue also varies wildly and is dosal related and connected to the orthostatic hypotension to some degree. EPS is rather rare.

The chance of TD is always there, after 55 years we still have that, aggregate statistics would say 5% per year vs. 25% for the typicals but in general Zyprexa and Seroquel have very low rates and no large amounts of single-drug users have yet to date been shown. The BJP journal places a possibility of 0.5% per year on a mass study of Zyprexa but again, statistics are only a guidance and they aren't the end all to describe things.

Basically there's always a risk benefit, still. Maybe in 20 or 30 years someone will come out with something truly novel that still uses D2 and isn't Clozaril (which I'm prepared to take for personal reasons.)

A single dose of either is basically a sleeping pill. One has to adjust to them over a period of time.

 

Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?

Posted by Zyprexa on December 1, 2007, at 8:51:05

In reply to Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?, posted by qbsbrown on November 30, 2007, at 13:44:17

I take Metformin with the zyprexa. Makes weight gain almost non-existant, and lower appatite. For me. Although I've never taken 30mg for more than a week at a time. I've mostly been in the range of 10-20mg, recently. I take 2000mg metformin /er. They are both similar. I think the er version is a little better. I also take a blood pressure med. The metformin has been realy good. I tried anouther that didn't work. From what I here it has been tested for use with zyprexa.

 

So Metformin/Glucophage really does work??????

Posted by qbsbrown on December 3, 2007, at 21:03:18

In reply to Re: Anyone Tried 30 mgs of Zyprexa?, posted by Zyprexa on December 1, 2007, at 8:51:05

So the glucophage/metformin really works huh? I remember trying 1000mgs and still gaining weight. perhaps I do need to go to 2000mgs.

 

Re: So Metformin/Glucophage really does work??????

Posted by Zyprexa on December 6, 2007, at 11:42:18

In reply to So Metformin/Glucophage really does work??????, posted by qbsbrown on December 3, 2007, at 21:03:18

I take 2000mg + 10-20mg zyprexa, not gaining. I don't remember how well 1000mg worked, probably not as well.


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