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Re: Marijuana

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 6:40:20

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 5:39:20


I am so computer illiterate, you will have to forgive me. I even have trouble getting what I want to say onto this website? If This letter goes on to the screen, I'll another letteer straight away. Hopefully I'll see you in a few mins?

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 6:58:19

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 6:40:20

>
> I am so computer illiterate, you will have to forgive me. I even have trouble getting what I want to say onto this website? If This letter goes on to the screen, I'll another letteer straight away. Hopefully I'll see you in a few mins?

Uhhh.... what?

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 8:00:46

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by fenix on February 1, 2006, at 13:20:21

Hello to you all again. Well folks, youv;e really got me going now. I think youv'e just released the computer monster.
I'm glad that you all had something constructive to say on the subject of marijuana, and i read all of the post's that you all posted with interest.
Fenix. What the hell was you chatting before? Do you have to use big words to impress people, or indeed, where you simply assessing whether or not I was stupid?
You asked whether you were being circumlocutory or not, and the truth was, You was. The text that you put into your POST was sort of big headedly flippant. If I was to be circumlocutory, then indeed I would then become incommensurable, and then i would undoubtedly become very asymmetric and use periphrases. Here is an important quote from one of the worlds greatest pioneers, Louis Pasteur.
The universe is asymmetric and I am persuaded that life, as it is known to us, is a direct result of the asymmetry of the universe or of it's indirect consequences. The universe is Asymmetric. I hope that that clears that up Fenix.
Would any of you like to make a solid difference to peoples lives on this planet? If so, then I suggest we all get together in some way and thrash out a plan,
We all have decent pliable minds, or else we would not be holding this sort of conversation, but what are we actually doing with this intelligence that we possess? I'm sure that we rreally should be pooling out thoughts, and coming up with answers that are beneficial to the masses.
Did you know that last night alone, more than 50'000 people passed away through the effects of starvation. Roughly around the same amount of men, women, and children die each and every day. I can't help but believe that it is more than about time that this world took stock of this evil situation and altered things. Starvation is a manmade thing, and man can easily remedy this attrocious neglect.
I have written a poem the other day, and I feel that I should type it out for you. I have lot's of poetry, but I feel that this one is special to this case. Here it is anyway.

Lend A Hand.
by
Mark Anthony Foott.

This poem's an open letter,
to the readers in this town.
It's simply a plea. for you, from me,
to help a man who's down.

Lend a hand to each other,
do what God has planned,
lend another, a forlorn brother,
the help, to let him stand.

I'm talking of the starving,
the ones diing in the dust.
Should we help, them help themself,
well, I just feel we must.

I'd like to set up pipelines,
a supply of water, I'd give.
It's what they need, to grow their seed,
to grow the grain, to live.

I haven't all the answers,
but I feel that I have some,
and I just pray, that soon the day,
when I can help, will come.

We all should do this together,
and i just feel we will,
but me on my own, can only moan,
and can only moan, until.

Until my works are published,
typeset, bound, in print.
Until I'm rich, I'm in a ditch,
my hands are tied, whilst skint.

I have a load of poetry,
and I'd like it in a book.
I feel a need, for people to read,
to stop, and simply look.

To look at what I'm doing,
to realise my gift,
and over time, by power of rhyme,
give the starving a lift.

This poem to you, is now finished,
my appeal to you, is done.
Now it;s up to you, what you shall do,
for the children of the sun.

Well I don't know what you will make of that bit of writing, but I just hope that it can go a little way in getting me into the position that i need to be in, in order to do whatever I can for the forgotten ones.
I have got other works than I will be putting onto this station, and i hope that ultimately something good can come from all of this.
At this moment in time, I am living the existence of a homeless man. I sleep in a park in Bath, and I rely a lot of the time on charitable organisations to get me fed. This is mainly because I have always been the eternal optimist, and have always felt that every horse that I've ever picked would be a winner. Right up until almost each one has been well and truly beaten. I have finally learnt my lesson now though, and see things in a whole new wider perspective. It's not about be and whether I win. It's about me winning for other people. It's all about me winning the battle to get all of those poor bastards fed and watered. Someone should care, and seeings as we are all part of this conversation, maybe it's us who should be doing this damn thing.
well that's it for now, but I hope that God works his/hers/theirs/or it's magic, in turning this problem around and allows us to do something constructive with our time.
Peace out, and God bless,
Mark Anthony Foott.
P.S. I don't know whether I'm allowed to put my e-mail address onto to site, but i'm going to try it anyway. If it is published on here, then please get in touch, and maybe we can put our heads together and come up with a heaven sent plan? Here it is.
markafoott@hotmail.com

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 9:58:40

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 8:00:46

I think you have misunderstood me; I am having difficulty understanding what you are talking about.

I replied in the past posts about how I think marijuana would be effective for depression and anxiety and how it should be legalized.

And yes, I asked whether I was being circumlocutory or not, in other words, if I was being too wordy, etc (I have been told I have a tendency to do that). It had nothing to do with me showing off any of the "big words" I have learned.

Anyway, I am a poet too; I usually write them in the bath though because the water does something to my creativity.

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by vainamoinen on February 2, 2006, at 11:33:50

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 8:00:46

> At this moment in time, I am living the existence of a homeless man. I sleep in a park in Bath, and I rely a lot of the time on charitable organisations to get me fed.
> markafoott@hotmail.com


Ummm, maybe marijuana is actually contributing to your problems rather than solving them. Just a thought.

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 12:37:16

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by vainamoinen on February 2, 2006, at 11:33:50


Fenix. So you are a poet too. that's cool asI feel the world has plenty of space for decent writers.
The other fella said that he wondered whether the cannibis was contributing towards my problems? No mate, definately not. If anything, I become a lot more creative when I have a spliff or seven.
I suppose like everything on this planet, weed is suited to some people, but not to others. I'm not saying weed is some kind of wonder drug for everyone, but I am saying that it inarguably has beneficial properties for lots of peoples needs.
Oh yeah Fenix. I'd just like to add that I also like to come up with a ditty or two in the bath. The calming soothing effects of the warm caressing liquid can make me feel like a prince. I love to have a load of lovely little candles burning, a nice glass of red wine, and a spliff. Am I wrong in taking this approach to my work?

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by vainamoinen on February 2, 2006, at 13:27:10

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 12:37:16

Reality check...you're homeless. You're associations are quite loose and you are borderline incoherent.

To me you seem to be teetering on the edge of psychosis. Marijuana is not the medication of choice for people in your position, Haldol maybe, but not marijuana. The research indicates a correlation between marijuana use and mental illness.

Please get some help, any homeless shelter should be able to direct you to the approriate social services.

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 14:00:12

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by vainamoinen on February 2, 2006, at 13:27:10

vainamoinen. What the hell are you getting into fella. You're telling me about marijuana, and all of the pitfalls it entails, and yet you are talking so much rubbish. Listen fella, I'm homeless but I've no problems to speak of. Soon i will be published as the worlds coolest street poet, and I wouldn't be able to do that If I was not at least O.K. in the head?
I'm not saying that pot is every man or womans cup of tea, but I am stating categorically that it works so much good on a hell of a lot of people who just want to have there shattered nerves soothed. If I was a doctor I would be advocating, and indeed fighting for the free availability of weed for the individual who would benefit.
Where are you all from anyway? I am in Bath in England, but I have not long returned from an almost three year stint in Seattle. The people in America<mainly the authorities>are so tolerant of the smoking of weed, and i feel that that is for a reason. Listen, why don't you just develope logic, and look at why the smokers on this planet are treated with a blind eye? Do you not think that the people in charge have got a clue as to what is going on? of course they have, and they like the majority of folk, can see the positive side to pot.

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 14:27:49

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 14:00:12

Hmmm, if you are really homeless then how are you able to use a computer (unless it was at a library).

Marijuana is a complicated subject that I have no experience in, some say that it helps their anxiety, some say it makes them paranoid, but if sweet leaf makes you feel better, than I guess you have a problem solved right there.

 

Re: Marijuana please read my post above (nm)

Posted by FredPotter on February 2, 2006, at 14:50:04

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 14:27:49

 

Re: Marijuana

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 15:43:03

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 14:27:49

Hy fenix. So you don't smoke the weed, and still manage to present a totally unbiased viewpoint. I am impressed, and what's more, it gives me hope that there are lots of fair minded people like yourself on this planet. The more the merrier I say.
What are you Fenix? I mean, what sex are you. It doesn't really matter, but I would just like to try to put a face to the words? The movie actor who died, was called Pheonix Rivers, and he was a guy, so I'm guessing because ot the different spelling, you are female. That'll be fine, as the kindest person that I know on this planet is female. She's my mum.
I do my poetry straight out of my head, and it all comes so very very quickly. I feel that my poetry always contains something of at least a little relevance, and hopefully there will be something to give to who ever wants to take it.Anyway, I've absolutely no idea what I am to write, but it will be cool. Here goes.

Don't Judge.
by
Mark Anthony Foott.

I'm sitting here in the internet caff,
A poem, I have to write.
My names Mark Foott, and I have to put,
my views to the left, and right.

I have to be at least balanced,
Know what I'm talking about.
I'm hoping to see, this poem from me,
can leave you in no doubt.

No doubt that somehow, I can win,
and get there in the end.
That all will feel, that I am real,
and want to be my friend.

I know I can't get everyone,
but I'll get the ones I can.
Like you out there, who really care,
for a literal, homeless man.

I have my gift, for a reason,
just like the rest of you.
I'm hopimg some day, I'll find the way,
to do, what I must do.

I must try to do my best,
nothing must be, half measure.
Whether giving a hand, to help man stand,
or giving a woman pleasure.

I'll never be half hearted,
in anything that I do.
I'll use heart and mind, in order to find,
the way that's right, and true.

I want to help the third world,
that's a fact that's true,
but understand, I'd like a hand,
from maybe, some of you.

I'd like to get a book published,
then we can make a start,
to make a change, and rearrange,
bring about, true heart.

I'm using what's at my disposal,
anything at hand.
I'm just aware, that it's all there,
not choreographed, or planned.

Like the poetry that I'm given,
I cannot make it up.
It just comes out, of a spiritual spout,
and brimmeth over, my cup.

This chat of our's, is no accident,
and I hope one day, we'll meet.
when power of poem, has got my home,
and I'm not living on the street.

I'm going to end this poem now,
as I need go on, no more.
I've shown a bit, of real cool sh*t,
and I know what it's for.

it's simply part of my C.V.,
another poem well done.
It's just to show, so you can know,
that I'm a number one.

I'm not saying that I am the greatest,
but I'm not second to anyone.
Here's the point, I'll settle for joint,
equal with every one.

Well that's about that then. I'll call it a day for now, as I want to get off this computer for a bit, and chill out.
Fenix. I've just had a bit of a rude awakening? I have just realised that your name may not even be your real name, as we are all given the option of having a blagg post name. My name though, is totally real. My name is Mark Anthony, but I don't at the moment have a Cleopatra. Maybe in the future, we'll see.
Fenix, you also asked how I manage to get onto the internet if I'm not in a library?
God put's lot's of people in my life, and lot's of people have specific purposes. Some are there to help me, some are there to be helped by me, and some are there to simply be who they are.
I am in an internet cafe in Bath, but I don't have to pay a penny. this is because God knows that I have no respect for money, as such. Don't get me wrong, I know what a powerful tool it can be, and I do like it, but I will always be content to let it slip through my fingers. Anyway I don't have to pay, as all the staff who work here, don't charge me. I don't even have to ask.
Anyway, I'll close now, God bless you all.

 

Re: please be civil mark anthony foott vainamoinen

Posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2006, at 22:35:48

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by vainamoinen on February 2, 2006, at 13:27:10

> The text that you put into your POST was sort of big headedly flippant.
>
> mark anthony foott

> you are borderline incoherent.
>
> vainamoinen

Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 3, 2006, at 12:38:19

In reply to Re: please be civil mark anthony foott vainamoinen, posted by Dr. Bob on February 2, 2006, at 22:35:48


First of all, please allow me to apologise if I have inadvertently upset anyone. If I was sounding flippant to you, then please let me assure you that I wasn't meaning to be.
What I'd like you to try to understand, is that circumstances in this life are so diverse to what I "presume" your's to be? At this moment in time, I am currently in possession of a load of dreams, but very little else?
I went wrong in life, but it was for a purpose.
I had to gain an empathy with the lowest "caste" in this life, namely, the homeless. Before God had me embark on this what I can only describe as a mission, I was leading the proverbial family life. A wife and two children later, I am well and truly screwed! At this moment in time I'm armed with only words. Words in poems,words in letters, and words in cyber talk,
My life has had to change immeasurably to get me to exactly where I am now. If I hadn't gone through so much crap in this existence, then I'd surely be still stuck in the same rut that I had spent all of my life in. That rut took everything from me. I was left feeling like my head was empty most of the time. But then God's plan kicked in for me, and it has been so life changingly awesome at times.
Only around 8 yrs ago, I was living in a life of nothing but ignorance and self doubt. I had no conception whatsoever what God was, and was <I suppose> content to randomly meander through that life. Things had to change radically so that I would wake up and smell the coffee. God wasn't going to make it easy for me, but I've been blessed in the fact that I have never been given more than I could stand.
This journey I've been on has took me to some weird and some cool places, and the people that I've met on my travels, have been cool, not so cool, different, and indifferent, but I have had the chance to learn so much. So much more than if I had been left in my dreamlike marital state.
How can a homeless fella living on the streets of Bath, suddenly find himself homeless, and on the streets of Seattle U.S.A.? Let me try to explain a little.
I was in the city of Bristol with a woman who I had met in Plymouth, we split up, and I ended up walking the few miles to Bath. I was dejected and didn't have a penny in my pockets. I had never been to bath, and had no idea of the special history that is assigned to it through the annals of time.
I arrived in Bath at the end of august 2001, and within a fortnight had witnessed the horror of 911 in New York. Even though I'm English and was far away from the states, I felt the absolute shock of what was happening in America. I remember watching the T.V. in a homeless shelter in Bath, called Julian House, and every single person in the place was in some kind of shock. I vividly remember those poor poor people who were faced with the only option available to them? Jump, or burn!! That day made an impression on not only the U.S., but on every single Christian based country on the planet. No more shocking event<in a peaceful country>had ever taken place, and to be honest, it's hard to envision anything more devastatingly tragic.
It was to be another year almost, before I was to end up in America, and here's how it happened.
I met a fella called Owain, and owain was to be the tool that God would ultimately use to get me to where he wanted me. Owain was aware of the strange events that had been surrounding me, and he was also aware that I felt that God wanted me to get to America to write a book.
Look, if I'm going to tell you my story, I'd like to know that someone is interested first. I don't want to be puttong a load of writing on the computer that no-one is really interested in.
If any of you would like to hear what I have to say, then please let me know, and if no-one let's me know, then I'll drop this whole thing now. I hope that that is all quite coherent to you. Goodbye for now, or forever?

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 13:24:45

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by mark anthony foott on February 3, 2006, at 12:38:19

No offense meant, and none taken.

In all seriousness though, you're thought processes seem similar to other people I've encountered who have mental health issues. But I'm no doctor, so maybe get yourself checked out when you have a chance. It's probably nothing. I'm just concerned is all. May good health and blessings follow you wherever you go regardless.

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 3, 2006, at 13:41:55

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 13:24:45


I've just learnt that you are one judgemental sonovabeach. How can you say "no offence" and then go straight into your speech about not being a doctor buttttttttttttttt, and give your totally unqualified opinion that I have mental problems? you certainly know how to impress a fella. Will you lend me your book after you have read it. What's it called? How to win people over in 1'00000000000000000000 easy lessons?

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 13:52:52

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by mark anthony foott on February 3, 2006, at 13:41:55

Again I apologize, I'm not trying to offend. This board is for people who have psychiatric disorders. That includes me. There is no shame in mental illness. And I've also been around enough family members and friends who also have psychiatric diagnoses to say that you sound like you may be in the same boat. I say may be. Just get checked out is all I'm saying. Like you would get a physical exam every year to make sure the ticker is in good working order.

I suffered for over 20 years with an incorrect diagnosis until I was diagnosed as bipolar. And I've seen family members and friends suffer greatly as well. And I don't want to see anyone else go through what I went through needlessly.

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by mark anthony foott on February 3, 2006, at 14:41:51

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 13:52:52

Vainamoinen. I'm sorry. I had no idea what this netsite was about. Now that I know I'm among fellow Loons, I can understand your gist a bit more.
Bi-polar, ain't that a bitch. When I was in the states,and I wanted to leave to get back to Britain, I had to take drastic action? I was in a strange country, homeless, had no i.d., and no matter what I did, it didn't seem to matter. I felt that I was almost held against my will and decided I would get the American authorities to kick me out.
I went to Nordstrom's department store in downtown Seattle, and smashed a window valued at 2 and a half grand. I was put into King county jail for 5 days, and then suddenly released? I was informed that Nordstrom's had not filed, so I was free to go. I was out back on the street in the same boat I was in before, and Had to do the same thing all over again, this time though, I smashed eleven windows, valued at 49 and a half grand. This time I signed the paper to be checked out by the local hospital. Whilst there, I was fitted with bi-polar label. Consequently though upon my return to britain, I have been informed that that diagnosis was wrong?

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 15:10:30

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by mark anthony foott on February 3, 2006, at 14:41:51

We prefer the term "nutjob" or "wacko" over Loon.

'Course that may be just because we don't speak English on this side of the pond.

 

I agree with you mark

Posted by linkadge on February 3, 2006, at 17:30:27

In reply to Re: Marijuana, posted by mark anthony foott on February 2, 2006, at 14:00:12

I think marajuanna should be legalized. It is was an effective treatment for anxiety and insomnia in me. A lot of other treatments were making things worse when marajuanna helped.

I'm not a juinkie, its use was not uncontrolled at all.

Linkadge

 

Re: just a thought

Posted by tizza on February 3, 2006, at 18:41:55

In reply to I agree with you mark, posted by linkadge on February 3, 2006, at 17:30:27

I think one of the biggest problems in society with smoking dope is you never know how it will affect you. It does help some people (cancer pain, chemo treatment, relaxation and creativity) but for others it can unfortunatly unleash a severe mental illness which the user never knew existed until they started smoking. It's a double edged sword like any drug but when people start flippin' out they don't realise that they are getting sicker and sicker because they have entered la la land. I'm not here to judge or make anyone uncomfortable but there is always risks with any drug, legal or illegal

 

Re: just a thought

Posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 18:49:00

In reply to Re: just a thought, posted by tizza on February 3, 2006, at 18:41:55

From what I've read the latest research shows animals self administer THC in a robust manner just like cocaine, amphetamine, and other drugs of abuse. Also it seems marijuana intoxication effects dopamine release in the nucleus accumbens area of the brain, also just like heroin cocaine etc. So the only reason MJ isn't regarded as a "hard" drug is because it's elimination from the body is so slow that detox is not dramatic.

 

Re: just a thought tizza

Posted by linkadge on February 3, 2006, at 19:03:49

In reply to Re: just a thought, posted by tizza on February 3, 2006, at 18:41:55

There is a lot of controversy about these assertions. The question as to weather or not marajuanna ever caused the illness or weather somebody with the illness was drawn to the drug.

I'm not saying it is without side effect, but perhaps some of the psychological side effects could be separated from the positive psychological effects.

It made me mildly paranoid, but the improvement in sleep and anxiety seemed to well outweigh the side effects.


Linkadge

 

Re: just a thought vainamoinen

Posted by linkadge on February 3, 2006, at 19:16:05

In reply to Re: just a thought, posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 18:49:00

Self administration of marajuanna is not identical to self administration of cocaine. There are similarities in that yes it does increase dopamine in the neucleus accumbens but so what, so does coffee. That effect in itself is not enough to dismiss the drug. Keep reading.


There are clear differences. With cocaine you can die from heart failure, dehydration, anorexia, stroke etc, whereas many of these complications are nonexistant with marajuanna. A rat will substitue cocaine for food and sleep, but a rat will not substitute marajuanna (or opium for that matter) with food or sleep. In addition, marajuanna seems to confer overall neuroprotective effects. There are derivitives of cannabis in the pipelines in attempts to halt alzheimers and parkinsons progression.

Many of the medicinal effets of marajuanna are probably unrealted to its effects on neucleus accumbens dopamine. It acts as a multiple serotonin agonist/antagonist, which may be responsible for anti-anxiety, and anti-nausiant effects.

In addition, marajuanna reduces the activity of the HPA axis, and reduces cortisol, something that cocaine does not do.

Finally, Marajuanna is unlike many other drugs of abuse in that it actually promotes hippocampal proliferation, an effect which is similar to virtually all other antidepressant compounds.

See:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=32033&nfid=rssfeeds

I am not a druggee by any strech of the imagination. To lump marajuanna in with other drugs is a bad idea.


Linkadge


 

Re: just a thought

Posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 19:26:08

In reply to Re: just a thought vainamoinen, posted by linkadge on February 3, 2006, at 19:16:05

I must admit I'm recovering from marijuana addiction so I have a biased opinion.

 

Re: just a thought

Posted by tizza on February 3, 2006, at 20:02:02

In reply to Re: just a thought, posted by vainamoinen on February 3, 2006, at 19:26:08

I haven't been able to touch it for over 10 years. It sends me into unbelievable paranoia and extreme anxiety which then leads to full blown panic attacks which lasted for days. I am one of the statistics for whom it is very bad and have suffered from depression and anxiety on and off for the last 12 years now. Even the smell of it makes my heart race and I have had 2 friends institutionalised from it with extreme psychosis but, I still know people who smoke and will till the day they die and they are fine


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