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Posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 23:19:44
Howdy,
I'm on Nardil and am trying to get around the ban on chicken bouillon/broth by making homemade chicken broth. But what is the tyramine issue with broth/boiullons? Is it the yeast extract found in so many packaged broths? Or is it that the chicken giblets, inlcluding the liver might be used to make the broth if a whole chicken is used?Thanks in advance for your help.
g
Posted by Sad Panda on January 14, 2004, at 8:21:26
In reply to MAOI diet question, posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 23:19:44
> Howdy,
> I'm on Nardil and am trying to get around the ban on chicken bouillon/broth by making homemade chicken broth. But what is the tyramine issue with broth/boiullons? Is it the yeast extract found in so many packaged broths? Or is it that the chicken giblets, inlcluding the liver might be used to make the broth if a whole chicken is used?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> g
I have never been on MAOI's, nor do I claim to be an an expert on MAOI diets, but I'll have a go at your question anyhow. :)My understading is the majority of tyramine in food & drink is caused by the actions of microbes on other protiens. The more aged a product is, the more tyramine it develops. Fresh meat is fine to eat, but aged meats like sausages is a no go. Non-aged cheese like Cottage cheese is fine but aged cheeses, which is pretty much every cheese that has flavour is a no go & not to be touched. Yeast extracts are a no go too. I am unsure if chicken livers & other organs contain tyramine, but they will develop it fast as they go bad pretty quickly. My advice on the chicken broth would be to clean the organs out of it before you simmer it slowly. Also, if you are buying frames, buy the biggest ones as biggest would be oldest & oldest has the best flavour & the most gristle. It's the collagen in the gristle that you are eeking out to make gelatin in the stock.
Cheers,
Panda.
Posted by SLS on January 14, 2004, at 16:22:48
In reply to Re: MAOI diet question » gardenergirl, posted by Sad Panda on January 14, 2004, at 8:21:26
In the supermarket, I've seen cans of chicken broth. I never bothered to check the ingredients, though. It might be worth a look at.
I hope someone chimes in on the boullion issue. I always stayed away from it in the past.
- Scott
Posted by MelD on January 15, 2004, at 0:02:03
In reply to MAOI diet question, posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 23:19:44
The kind of yeast extract found in many prepared foods is no problem. The giblets are a potential problem and i would steer clear of anything with giblets in it. After Thanksgiving, several people on our MAOI board reported reactions after eating stuffing or gravy with giblets in. If the broth is not flavored with them, of course, no problem. Enjoy your soup! Melodie
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