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Re: this is the end, beautiful friends wharfrat

Posted by Paulie on June 3, 2003, at 22:08:13

In reply to Re: this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:58:50

Kevin,
CALL 911!!! CALL911!!! CALL 911!!! CALL 911!!!

 

Re: Kevin please contact crisis intervention asap

Posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 22:14:43

In reply to Kevin please contact crisis intervention asap, posted by zenhussy on June 3, 2003, at 22:01:57

BNooo!1!!!

 

Re: this is the end, beautiful friends

Posted by Michael Bell on June 3, 2003, at 22:17:44

In reply to this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:24:51

Kevin,

The number of replies you've already gotten shows how much people care about you! Don't give up on life, everyday the medical community is making huge strides. Hang in there, and call the suicide hotline or 911 please! There are many people out here ready to help you!

 

Kev you knew people wouldn't support your offing

Posted by zenhussy on June 3, 2003, at 22:21:31

In reply to Re: Kevin please contact crisis intervention asap, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 22:14:43

yourself! Come now! You came here to say farewell and we're riled as hell and worried and concerned and peeved at feeling so helpless as to getting services to you if you are in jeopardy to yourself or others.

Damn you and your boo no to getting help. It is a natural response to someone in pain reaching out to want them to receive help. We are reacting as is normal for people who care about another human being.

Kevin please call for help now.

zenhussy

> BNooo!1!!!

 

Re: this is the end, beautiful friends

Posted by Guy on June 3, 2003, at 22:25:04

In reply to this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:24:51

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. There are people who can help you but it is up to you to reach out for that help. Go to your phone now!

 

Re: this is the end, beautiful friends

Posted by ace on June 4, 2003, at 2:44:22

In reply to this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:24:51

> Adios amigos,
> I cannot take it anymore. The conflicts between myself & my son have come to a head. I absolutely cannot take it anymore. He's won the game. He has driven me from concerned parent, to a person who has obviously failed in life. I've only wanted the best for him, but he thinks I'm a total failure as a parent. He basically hates me and everything that I stand for and care about. I've tried, but nothing helps. It's pretty obvious that in order for him (and the rest of of my family)to be happy, I need to be out of the picture totally. And as of right now, I'm thinking permenantly.
> I've not posted in some time and doubt that any of you rememember me, or for that matter give a rats ass. I'm thinking there is a special places for people like us. And maybe, just maybe, it's not the sheer hell that that life as we know it,can be.
> Good Bye cruel world & God Bless.
> Maybe I'll see ya'll on the other side. If there is one.
> Bye,
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> Forget that man!,
Don't let the misery get the better off you...Persist!

No matter what the problem, you will find a way - even though you feel hopeless now.

In 10 weeks from now, you could easily look back and think "I'm so much better, can't believe I felt that bad before"

STRUGGLE ON! DON'T BECOME ANOTHER STATISTIC,

GOD BLESS,
ACE.

 

Re: this is the end, beautiful friends wharfrat

Posted by Viridis on June 4, 2003, at 3:57:35

In reply to this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:24:51

Don't make any quick decisions in your current state of mind. It just isn't worth it. I've been there, and that kind of thinking is very short-term. Whatever emergency measures you have to take, do so now -- and then get long-term help. People do care, and so will your family. These sorts of thoughts come from high-anxiety situations, and they will pass --but you need help. Don't make a radical decision based on some immediate problem. It will just create more problems, and will solve nothing.

 

Re: this is the end, beautiful friends wharfrat

Posted by colin wallace on June 4, 2003, at 4:36:06

In reply to this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:24:51

> Adios amigos,
> I cannot take it anymore. The conflicts between myself & my son have come to a head. I absolutely cannot take it anymore. He's won the game. He has driven me from concerned parent, to a person who has obviously failed in life. I've only wanted the best for him, but he thinks I'm a total failure as a parent. He basically hates me and everything that I stand for and care about. I've tried, but nothing helps. It's pretty obvious that in order for him (and the rest of of my family)to be happy, I need to be out of the picture totally. And as of right now, I'm thinking permenantly.
> I've not posted in some time and doubt that any of you rememember me, or for that matter give a rats ass. I'm thinking there is a special places for people like us. And maybe, just maybe, it's not the sheer hell that that life as we know it,can be.
> Good Bye cruel world & God Bless.
> Maybe I'll see ya'll on the other side. If there is one.
> Bye,
> Kevin


Kev,

I've been there.Don't do it.I remember you as a poster,and I give a rat's ass too!
You need to get yourself away from your current environment, and visit a hospital, and be truthful about how you feel.Or a friend at least.
What have you got to lose??
Have you ever done something or made a really bad decision whilst drunk, and then regretted it like hell afterwards?When your head clears, you realize just how wrong you were, how messed up your reasoning was?That's how I look back at when I was thinking of suicide.Looking back,I realize I was very wrong, I was helped,I got through it.It's worth it.
There's no hangover and time for reflection to follow what you're contemplating.So think about it in advance!Your family won't want you dead.Chances are, it will destroy them.
But you're right, you do need to be out of the picture, for the moment.Out of your stressful environment and into the company of caring professionals who will help you through.Just go to any hospital and talk to someone.Please.

Col.


 

Effects of a father's suicide - from a daughter

Posted by waterlily on June 4, 2003, at 8:36:11

In reply to this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:24:51

Hey, I hope I'm not too late. First off, if your son is not what you'd like him to be, don't write yourself off because of it. Parenthood is a tremendous responsibility, but don't kid yourself into thinking that you are the ONLY influence, bad or otherwise, in your child's life. Some kids with wonderful parents turn out badly and vice-versa.

My dad committed suicide when I was fourteen years old. That was twenty years ago. Not a day goes by that I don't wish he was still here. My dad was not a super nice guy either. He was an alcoholic, yelled at us a lot, went into debt buying nice stuff for himself, and was a general pain in my butt for a long time. Despite all that I still wish he were here. Why? Because he's my DAD. No one else in the world can say that. I'm sure he thought he was doing us all a favor by killing himself. I don't think he did. None of us was ready to give up on him. Two months before his death he turned into the father I've always wanted. I'm kicking myself for turning down his invitation to have dinner with him on my birthday that year, less than a month before his death.

If you kill yourself you will be doing it more for yourself than your family. After all, in order to be out of your family's life all you have to do is move out. That would give them the option of contacting you and asking you to come back. When you kill yourself you do not give them that choice. Suicide will end your suffering, but only make theirs worse.

 

wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness

Posted by zenhussy on June 4, 2003, at 10:40:16

In reply to Effects of a father's suicide - from a daughter, posted by waterlily on June 4, 2003, at 8:36:11

Re: Slinky, Zenhussy everybody
Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 10:05:17

In reply to Wharfrat, Slinky, Zenhussy, posted by kara lynne on June 4, 2003, at 1:51:31

Sorry about the drunken ramblings. Not only am I embaressed and feel really pathetic, my heads about to kill me. I'm sorry to have worried anybody. I'll be ok.
Thanks,
Wharf
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030604/msgs/231344.html

 

Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank good

Posted by Jack Smith on June 4, 2003, at 11:57:49

In reply to wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness, posted by zenhussy on June 4, 2003, at 10:40:16

> Re: Slinky, Zenhussy everybody
> Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 10:05:17
>
> In reply to Wharfrat, Slinky, Zenhussy, posted by kara lynne on June 4, 2003, at 1:51:31
>
> Sorry about the drunken ramblings. Not only am I embaressed and feel really pathetic, my heads about to kill me. I'm sorry to have worried anybody. I'll be ok.
> Thanks,
> Wharf
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030604/msgs/231344.html
>

Grow up.

 

Re: this is the end, beautiful friends wharfrat

Posted by lil' jimi on June 4, 2003, at 12:01:05

In reply to this is the end, beautiful friends, posted by wharfrat on June 3, 2003, at 21:24:51

hi wharfrat,

i remember you from reading your posts from early in the lex thread ..... you have been an inspiration to me since i read them last march, man .... and you wrote them like last fall .... it has been a while since i have seen your posts.

i am so sorry to hear you're having such a hard time with your son .... and i hate it that it has hurt you so much .... especially because you are so clearly implying your own self-destruction.

i want to know ...
i REALLY want to know that you have local direct support to protect you in a crisis ..... we (EVERYONE!) needs to KNOW that you are safe .....

PLEASE!!! ... please?

...and please write and post here as much as you can or want ..... a lot of folks do want to help........ they helped me, they can help you too.

TAKE CARE!!!!!
~ jim

 

Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness zenhussy

Posted by Valentine on June 4, 2003, at 12:01:14

In reply to wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness, posted by zenhussy on June 4, 2003, at 10:40:16

You wrote:
> Re: Slinky, Zenhussy everybody
> Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 10:05:17
>
> In reply to Wharfrat, Slinky, Zenhussy, posted by kara lynne on June 4, 2003, at 1:51:31
>
> Sorry about the drunken ramblings. Not only am I embaressed and feel really pathetic, my heads about to kill me. I'm sorry to have worried anybody. I'll be ok.
> Thanks,
> Wharf
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030604/msgs/231344.html
>

I am so glad to hear that you are okay. I'm new to the board and was reading this thread last night and was very concerned. Checked it out first thing this morning and there was no word.

Sounds like you're going through a very rough patch. I hope you get the support you need!

 

Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank good Jack Smith

Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 12:11:31

In reply to Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank good, posted by Jack Smith on June 4, 2003, at 11:57:49

> > Re: Slinky, Zenhussy everybody
> > Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 10:05:17
> >
> > In reply to Wharfrat, Slinky, Zenhussy, posted by kara lynne on June 4, 2003, at 1:51:31
> >
> > Sorry about the drunken ramblings. Not only am I embaressed and feel really pathetic, my heads about to kill me. I'm sorry to have worried anybody. I'll be ok.
> > Thanks,
> > Wharf
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030604/msgs/231344.html
> >
>
> Grow up.

Thanks for that kind advice. It's refreshing to have people like you that don't have any problems to come on a board where people that do have porblems and give such straight to the point advice. I guess I 'm not as smart as you. I guess I don't know JACK SMITH!!!!

 

Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness zenhussy

Posted by lil' jimi on June 4, 2003, at 12:42:32

In reply to wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness, posted by zenhussy on June 4, 2003, at 10:40:16

> Re: Slinky, Zenhussy everybody
> Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 10:05:17
>
> In reply to Wharfrat, Slinky, Zenhussy, posted by kara lynne on June 4, 2003, at 1:51:31
>
> Sorry about the drunken ramblings. Not only am I embaressed and feel really pathetic, my heads about to kill me. I'm sorry to have worried anybody. I'll be ok.
> Thanks,
> Wharf
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030604/msgs/231344.html
>

i thank you, my zenhussy ..... i (and many others, i'm sure) appreciate the good info update ....

TAKE CARE !!!
~ jim

p.s. would you be a buddhist, perhaps?...peace, ~ j

 

Faking a suicide attempt is childish wharfrat

Posted by Jack Smith on June 4, 2003, at 13:11:01

In reply to Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank good Jack Smith, posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 12:11:31

And that's what you did, that's why I said "grow up." I think coming on to a board and saying you are going to kill yourself is unacceptable unless you really are serious. Then to just dismiss it all as "drunken ramblings" is a childish cry for attention. I read your series of posts and got very upset that it appeared like someone was actually dying as they were posting. It certainly seemed like you were trying to imply that you had OD'd and you were posting a long goodbye. . . .

To then read that you were just "rambling" is really upsetting. Reminds of me of previous poster who faked a suicide attempt on this board and posted as her dad saying that she was in the hospital. I come here for support, not to see how people will react if I pretend to kill myself. I am not going to toy with people's emotions.

JACK

P.S. I can see my post-banning coming, Dr. Bob.

 

Re: Faking a suicide attempt is childish

Posted by KimberlyDi on June 4, 2003, at 13:41:34

In reply to Faking a suicide attempt is childish wharfrat, posted by Jack Smith on June 4, 2003, at 13:11:01

Jack Smith,
I would hope that Dr Bob would not ban you for speaking your mind. And I'm sure that your opinion is felt, to different degrees, by alot of the people reading these posts. Most people might not say it though, giving wharfrat the benefit of the doubt. Oddly enough, your comment balanced everything nicely. An outpouring of sympathy balanced by the father-figure voice of reason. I probably don't make any sense. LOL
Anyways, it is a BEAUTIFUL day to be alive.

> And that's what you did, that's why I said "grow up." I think coming on to a board and saying you are going to kill yourself is unacceptable unless you really are serious. Then to just dismiss it all as "drunken ramblings" is a childish cry for attention. I read your series of posts and got very upset that it appeared like someone was actually dying as they were posting. It certainly seemed like you were trying to imply that you had OD'd and you were posting a long goodbye. . . .
>
> To then read that you were just "rambling" is really upsetting. Reminds of me of previous poster who faked a suicide attempt on this board and posted as her dad saying that she was in the hospital. I come here for support, not to see how people will react if I pretend to kill myself. I am not going to toy with people's emotions.
>
> JACK
>
> P.S. I can see my post-banning coming, Dr. Bob.

 

Oh, that frothy Romulan Ale!! (nm)

Posted by colin wallace on June 4, 2003, at 13:52:23

In reply to Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness zenhussy, posted by Valentine on June 4, 2003, at 12:01:14

 

Re: Faking a suicide attempt is childish KimberlyDi

Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 14:10:53

In reply to Re: Faking a suicide attempt is childish, posted by KimberlyDi on June 4, 2003, at 13:41:34

Well Jack,
I guess if I had your positive and uplifting support last nite, I would probably be layin in cold storage today. Thanks to all who did help.
I appreciate Jack reminding me of why I quit posting several months back. Because there are some people who seem to liike to make others feel bad. By saying I was faking something is saying I'm a liar and I don't recall ever meeting Jack Smith. So who is HE to call a person HE's never met and knows nothing about their background a fake or basically a liar, deceiver. Why would I come on here after so many months late at night to try and play with peoples emotions? I've never bullshitted ianybody on this board. Why would I start now? I read the rules and regulations about being civil when I signed on this board and I've kept it that way.

Thanks for nothing JACK
Maybe you can get a job on the psychic hotline

P.S. Dr. Bob, sorry about the launguage. You don't have to block me. I WON'T be back
Wharf

 

Re: Sorry Kim above for Jack (nm)

Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 14:19:09

In reply to Re: Faking a suicide attempt is childish KimberlyDi, posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 14:10:53

 

Re: Faking a suicide attempt is childish

Posted by maxime on June 4, 2003, at 15:22:37

In reply to Faking a suicide attempt is childish wharfrat, posted by Jack Smith on June 4, 2003, at 13:11:01

I know Kevin from another board and he is always faking suicides. You have no idea how many times people on our group called the police to get him help. He has a borderline personality disorder among other problems.

Best thing to do is to ignore him. He has a therapist. He has a pdoc. He is on medication. He says he has gone through DBT therapy. But he still manipulates people.

Max

 

Re: you've got me mixed up with someone else (nm) maxime

Posted by wharfrat on June 4, 2003, at 15:32:09

In reply to Re: Faking a suicide attempt is childish, posted by maxime on June 4, 2003, at 15:22:37

 

Re: blocked for week (and redirect) Jack Smith

Posted by Dr. Bob on June 4, 2003, at 15:43:43

In reply to Faking a suicide attempt is childish wharfrat, posted by Jack Smith on June 4, 2003, at 13:11:01

> P.S. I can see my post-banning coming, Dr. Bob.

OK, here it is.

Bob

PS1: Follow-ups regarding posting policies, and complaints about posts, should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted.

PS2: Other follow-ups should be redirected to Psycho-Social-Babble. Here's a link:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030604/msgs/231344.html

 

Re: please be civil maxime

Posted by Dr. Bob on June 4, 2003, at 15:52:00

In reply to Re: Faking a suicide attempt is childish, posted by maxime on June 4, 2003, at 15:22:37

> I know Kevin from another board and he is always faking suicides.
>
> Best thing to do is to ignore him.

One of the goals here is support, so please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

Bob

PS: I'd be interested to know who you believe him to be at what other boards. You can email me...

 

no problemo on the update you take care now (nm) lil' jimi

Posted by zenhussy on June 4, 2003, at 19:22:09

In reply to Re: wicked headache but he's still here thank goodness zenhussy, posted by lil' jimi on June 4, 2003, at 12:42:32


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