Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 126790

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Adderall and Competitve Sports

Posted by OrangePeel76 on November 7, 2002, at 8:00:46

I started taking 30 mg Adderall/day (15 mg AM, 15 mg PM) along with Trileptal. (For ADHD and BPII)

I am a competitive cyclist (bicycle) and was wondering how this would effect my training and performance. Does anyone have any experience with this? Any input is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

OP

 

Re: Adderall and Competitve Sports

Posted by sjb on November 7, 2002, at 8:49:30

In reply to Adderall and Competitve Sports, posted by OrangePeel76 on November 7, 2002, at 8:00:46

First of all, it's a banned substance. Of course, unless you are an olympic caliber athtlete, you probably won't be tested in your competitive endevors. However, you may find this unethical, as you will no doubt be competing against others who do not use banned substances.

That said, it helps, INITIALLY. I run, but was never a good early morning runner. When I first tried Adderall, I was out the door charging before 6am. However, some weeks later, I had one of the biggest and longest depression crashes I ever had, and that's saying something, 'cause I've had many whammies.

I will no longer touch Adderall. However, some posters here swear by it, so depending on your diagnosis, it may be helpful for you. I would just strongly warn against taking it strictly for a performance boost. I believe you'll pay for it, one way or the other. My advice for better performance: train harder, hit the gym and eat well.

Good Luck.

 

Re: Adderall and Competitve Sports sjb

Posted by OrangePeel76 on November 7, 2002, at 9:00:37

In reply to Re: Adderall and Competitve Sports, posted by sjb on November 7, 2002, at 8:49:30

First of all, I have no interest in using anything to enhance my performance and give me an unnatural edge against my competitors...therefore the concern of taking Adderall while I train and compete (thus the initial question)

Secondly, Adderall has made a dramatic improvement in my life and right now I am trying to balance the pros and cons (thus the initial question).

Thirdly, I have not (yet) taken Adderall prior to any of my morning workouts so I do not yet know the effects (thus the initial question).

Thank you,

OP

> First of all, it's a banned substance. Of course, unless you are an olympic caliber athtlete, you probably won't be tested in your competitive endevors. However, you may find this unethical, as you will no doubt be competing against others who do not use banned substances.
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> That said, it helps, INITIALLY. I run, but was never a good early morning runner. When I first tried Adderall, I was out the door charging before 6am. However, some weeks later, I had one of the biggest and longest depression crashes I ever had, and that's saying something, 'cause I've had many whammies.
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> I will no longer touch Adderall. However, some posters here swear by it, so depending on your diagnosis, it may be helpful for you. I would just strongly warn against taking it strictly for a performance boost. I believe you'll pay for it, one way or the other. My advice for better performance: train harder, hit the gym and eat well.
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> Good Luck.

 

Re: Adderall and Competitve Sports

Posted by sjb on November 7, 2002, at 9:45:48

In reply to Re: Adderall and Competitve Sports sjb, posted by OrangePeel76 on November 7, 2002, at 9:00:37

My apolgies for not understanding the gist of your concerns.

I'm glad the Adderall is helping you. Your mental health is more important than your athletic goals. However, if you do train on it, you may want to check of your heart rate from time-to-time during cycling to make sure that it doesn't get too high. I never did this, but I read somewhere that it was advisable. Even some cold medications taken during excercise have the POSSIBILITY of sending your heart rate too high and therefore, COULD be a risk during strenuous activity.

BTW - I saw a PDoc that specialized in sports. He said he has had a lot of success with Lamictal for bi-polar athletes. I tried it and didn't stick with it as the initial fatigue was intolerable for me. Just something to keep in mind if you need a change in your regimin in the future.

The main thing is relative sanity. If you are doing well are your current meds, stick with them.

 

Just a question

Posted by linkadge on November 7, 2002, at 10:43:46

In reply to Re: Adderall and Competitve Sports, posted by sjb on November 7, 2002, at 9:45:48

Which pschiatric meds are classified as
banned substances. Is't that discrimination
banning a med that is used for psychiatric
health. Isn't that like saying someone can't
use their heart condition meds duringt the
olympics.

Are antidepressants allowed, cause certainly
they could concievably give an edge in a
race, Wellbutrin, Effexor etc, have stimulant
properties. What if an Olympian has a genuiune
anxiety disorder or something ?

Linkadge

 

Re: Just a question

Posted by OrangePeel76 on November 7, 2002, at 10:59:15

In reply to Just a question, posted by linkadge on November 7, 2002, at 10:43:46

From what I understand (I could be way off)but certain orginizations (ex USCF for bike racing) allow certain medications that are banned if there is a medical condition that neccessitates their use.

For example, if you use an inhaler such as Albuterol (which is banned) you need to get some kind of disclosure form that validates your *medical condition* & then I think the Yay or Nay it.

OP

 

Re: Just a question

Posted by sjb on November 7, 2002, at 13:29:33

In reply to Just a question, posted by linkadge on November 7, 2002, at 10:43:46

There is a link somewhere out there, but I can't remember where I saw it. Notice we were talking about Adderall, not an SRRI but a stimulant. All stimulants are banned, including high levels of caffeine. Although the caffeine levels must be quite high.

Most of the SRRIs are NOT banned. I agree with your concerns, but look at it from the ruling bodies perspective. How can they determine who is legitamately depressed and who is not? If there were irrefutable proof that an SRRI enhanced athletic performance, there would be "depressed" athletes coming out of the woodwork. As we all know, it's not difficult to go to a PDoc and get a script.

There is just no way that they can make these kind of exceptions as things currently stand. As it is, they are always behind the out-and-out cheats anyway, let alone trying to police the honest athlete with mental or emotional problems.


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