Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 107940

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cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic

Posted by adamie on May 29, 2002, at 11:01:19


i feel so horrible in bed. and i just cant sit still. it's like i have to keep moving as if a distraction from all the mental pain. i cant sleep. i got so little if any today and this is going on since 3 days ago. all of a sudden i went from being tired and sleeping okay to now hardly being able to SLEEP AT ALL.

And i am feeling worse. my health is deteriorating. i tried immovane the sleep med but it's junk. doesn't work for me at all. i dont want some silly 'hypnotic' i want something to cause drowsiness so i can actually SLEEP. IS there something over the counter now, not even sleeping pills but like meds for like the flu or whatever or tylenol stuff or whatever is out that causes drowsiness? and i need HUGE drowsiness.

also i am losing what is left of my tiny appetite and am starting to be anorexic. it is just so hard to put ANYTHING in my mouth. and my ups and downs every day are turning more into downs and less ups (and the ups are pathetic anyway). i am really losing it. and i dunno what the hell to do. so many meds actually make me worse. i dunno what to try but i need something. i got apointment for a special clinic in difficult to treat depression this june 3rd. maybe they will put me on some new stuff.

tell me what sleep meds to try. I need Drowsiness. none of that other calming crap works.

bed is so hard. and my head would be burning all the time. so hot over the pillow it would feel and i would just keep moving and moving, and when still it just seems like the pain is harder and like my mind just cant rest.

i dont get it. i used to have day time sleepiness. now i dont. before sleep was often easy even though i'd wake up 5 times a night. now i can hardly sleep at all.

why the hell is my severe anxiety and depression changing

 

Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic adamie

Posted by beardedlady on May 29, 2002, at 11:21:06

In reply to cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic, posted by adamie on May 29, 2002, at 11:01:19

You could try valerian; that's supposed to make you sleepy. When I first came down with insomnia, doctors told me to try Benedryl. An OTC rememdy that works when I'm sick is Nyquil, and I remember that Contac used to wipe me out; I'd sleep for days.

I have terrible insomnia, and I'm on Serzone for it. Right now, I'm having a relapse, so I'm not feeling very positive. But I know it's only temporary, and I am able to find relief with Sonata, though I can only get about three hours of sleep out of it at this point. Last night, I took two, four hours apart, and got about five and a half hours of sleep.

This hypnotic certainly works for me, but everybody's different. Ambien, though the same drug, doesn't work for me like Sonata does.

Sounds like you are just sitting around doing nothing but thinking about how horrible you feel, which can be worse for you than anything else. Can you go for a jog or do something physical? Can you read or visit with friends or family? Can you get a hug from someone? That often calms anxiety, as does a hot bath.

I don't know what else to tell you except that you should get out of your house and move around. Nothing makes you drowsier than physical exertion and hard work.

I've had three days of bad sleep, but I went out this morning and jogged two miles with my daughter, and then we washed my car for the last two hours (it's a big car!). I'm hoping that will help me tonight.

Good luck to you.

beardy : )>

 

Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic

Posted by SassyMom33 on May 29, 2002, at 12:02:31

In reply to Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic adamie, posted by beardedlady on May 29, 2002, at 11:21:06

Valerian Root really could help. Good luck to you. Seriously, too, get out...and try to find something physically to do. (((HUGS)))

 

Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic

Posted by Bill L on May 29, 2002, at 13:01:26

In reply to Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic, posted by SassyMom33 on May 29, 2002, at 12:02:31

Have you tried Trazodone for sleep?

 

Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic adamie

Posted by Ritch on May 29, 2002, at 13:22:16

In reply to cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic, posted by adamie on May 29, 2002, at 11:01:19

>
> i feel so horrible in bed. and i just cant sit still. it's like i have to keep moving as if a distraction from all the mental pain. i cant sleep. i got so little if any today and this is going on since 3 days ago. all of a sudden i went from being tired and sleeping okay to now hardly being able to SLEEP AT ALL.
>
> And i am feeling worse. my health is deteriorating. i tried immovane the sleep med but it's junk. doesn't work for me at all. i dont want some silly 'hypnotic' i want something to cause drowsiness so i can actually SLEEP. IS there something over the counter now, not even sleeping pills but like meds for like the flu or whatever or tylenol stuff or whatever is out that causes drowsiness? and i need HUGE drowsiness.
>
> also i am losing what is left of my tiny appetite and am starting to be anorexic. it is just so hard to put ANYTHING in my mouth. and my ups and downs every day are turning more into downs and less ups (and the ups are pathetic anyway). i am really losing it. and i dunno what the hell to do. so many meds actually make me worse. i dunno what to try but i need something. i got apointment for a special clinic in difficult to treat depression this june 3rd. maybe they will put me on some new stuff.
>
> tell me what sleep meds to try. I need Drowsiness. none of that other calming crap works.
>
> bed is so hard. and my head would be burning all the time. so hot over the pillow it would feel and i would just keep moving and moving, and when still it just seems like the pain is harder and like my mind just cant rest.
>
> i dont get it. i used to have day time sleepiness. now i dont. before sleep was often easy even though i'd wake up 5 times a night. now i can hardly sleep at all.
>
> why the hell is my severe anxiety and depression changing

You can get some Benadryl OTC. It works for me better than benzos (25-50mg). It also settles down agitation almost as well. You might ask your doctor about some trimipramine (Surmontil) to help you sleep. Other possibilities to help you sleep and boost your appetite might be Depakote (a mood stabilizer), or Remeron.

Mitch

 

Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic adamie

Posted by JonW on May 29, 2002, at 13:28:55

In reply to cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic, posted by adamie on May 29, 2002, at 11:01:19

Hi adamie,

In terms of sedation, Remeron is like a coma in a pill for me so you might want to try that. I've read some of your posts recently and a lot of the symptoms you describe sound like bipolar disorder -- have you ever been evaluated for bipolar II and the like?

Jon

 

tylenol pm i got. will it work? AHH ,expired!

Posted by adamie on May 29, 2002, at 15:00:38

In reply to Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic adamie, posted by JonW on May 29, 2002, at 13:28:55


the pharmacist said it causes drowsiness. i didn't get tylenol PM but a lower price version with a different brand name but same ingredient.
diphenhydramine.

i just now realized it says 01/05 on EXP date.

DOES THIS MEAN I HAVE TO GO BACK? and get a new one or what.


 

Re: tylenol pm i got. will it work? AHH ,expired!

Posted by SassyMom33 on May 29, 2002, at 15:03:08

In reply to tylenol pm i got. will it work? AHH ,expired!, posted by adamie on May 29, 2002, at 15:00:38

No, that means that it expires January 2005...so you have plenty of time. :-)

 

Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic Bill L

Posted by adamie on May 31, 2002, at 13:44:23

In reply to Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic, posted by Bill L on May 29, 2002, at 13:01:26

> Have you tried Trazodone for sleep?

haven't tried it yet. a lot of ad's effect me badly so i dunno if i should ever give that a try. i plan to go back on zyprexa.

is trazodone more of a sleep med? and just somewhat an AD?

 

Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic JonW

Posted by adamie on May 31, 2002, at 13:47:13

In reply to Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic adamie, posted by JonW on May 29, 2002, at 13:28:55


hi. no one evaluated me for bipolar. perhaps part of my illness has bipolar features maybe but i certianly never get any of those highs that other bipolars seem to. i never feel good. the best i ever felt was 'okay or decent' during this illness.

come to think of it i guess trazodone can be worth a try and same with remeron. it's just so risky for me to try more AD's since most of them have affected me badly (worsened my depression and anxiety).

> Hi adamie,
>
> In terms of sedation, Remeron is like a coma in a pill for me so you might want to try that. I've read some of your posts recently and a lot of the symptoms you describe sound like bipolar disorder -- have you ever been evaluated for bipolar II and the like?
>
> Jon

 

Bipolar, kind of? adamie

Posted by JonW on May 31, 2002, at 15:20:23

In reply to Re: cant sleep, feeling worse, getting anorexic JonW, posted by adamie on May 31, 2002, at 13:47:13

> hi. no one evaluated me for bipolar. perhaps part of my illness has bipolar features maybe but i certianly never get any of those highs that other bipolars seem to. i never feel good. the best i ever felt was 'okay or decent' during this illness.

Adamie,

There are two sites on the internet that may be of interest to you. I'll paste them below. The first is a topic archive of questions and answers relating to the bipolar spectrum. You may be surprised how much you relate to these people -- or not. You may want to ask the doctor (Dr. Phelps) at that sight some of the questions you are asking here. You can do so by clicking on 'Ask The Doctor' at the top of that site. The second is a site maintained by Dr. Phelps himself. Here, let me paste the links:

http://www.bipolarworld.net/Phelps/topicarchive.htm
http://www.psycheducation.org/

Good Luck,
Jon


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